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60
no yes
Debate Score:122
Arguments:82
Total Votes:134
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should sex with animals be legal

 

I want to tell my friend that it is wrong. But I don't know for sure it is wrong. I want to see some opinions.

no

Side Score: 62
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yes

Side Score: 60
3 points

Their is no way a creature with our level of sapience can have sexual relations with a creature of less sapience without the lower creature being taken advantage of. We can weigh the issue down with some idea that so long as the creature isn't fleeing, that it consents, but we never truly know if this is what is desired, or if it is just what is being allowed. I have a cat that allows me to pet it but does not like being pet.

Side: no
goodmale(1457) Disputed
1 point

Will if the creature comes to the act it self that shows that the creature desires it. It can still be either way around, the creature may have a bigger desire or the human may have a bigger desire. And what is a better way for the creature to say I desire it then creature forcing the act by itself.

Side: yes
3 points

true, but seeing as animals never do just 'have sex with humans' on their own, with no provocation, your argument is void. No animal has ever began a sexual act with a human for the purpose of sexual stimulation, if they had not been pushed to that point by lack of interaction with other animals, or in an effort to get at perhaps a food item spread across the human.

Side: no
goodmale(1457) Disputed
1 point

If I cut my brain apart to get at equal level so there would be no taking advantage of. Then would you allow it or would you still come up with another lame excuse.

Side: yes
DrawFour(2662) Disputed
1 point

No need for excuses. You're an idiot already, and clearly do not have an I.Q. high enough to understand that bad touching animals is wrong. Whether you're retarded or otherwise.

Side: no
goodmale(1457) Disputed
1 point

I have to dispute this. Sex with an animal isn't rape for the same reason that killing an animal isn't murder. If an aroused animal mounts an unwilling, possibly restrained human, that isn't rape either. If an animal kills a human, that isn't murder either.

Also If I cut my brain apart to get at equal level so there would be no taking advantage of. Then would you allow it or would you still come up with another lame excuse.

Side: yes

Animals can not consent to it so it is wrong.

Side: no
2 points

I don't like to think about it but it sounds sick. I now alot of things are sick in this world. I just don't know is it wrong. I think it wrong because they can't tell someone that there not ok with it. I just want opinions.

Side: no
whatisright(18) Disputed
2 points

I am with you sister there is alot of sick things in this world. I think you should understand that he or she world not do it if they knew that it is wrong but what I have seen it is not wrong.

Side: yes
1 point

So you have seen a person have sex with an animal? And you thought it was perfectly okay?

Side: no

No .

Side: no

Hell no!

Side: no
goodmale(1457) Disputed
1 point

If your not going to post anything big please stay out. Leave this topic to the professionals.

Side: yes
3 points

If animals have feeling then your being a rapist. If they don't then your still a sick shit.

Side: no
2 points

There are 7 billion humans on this planet. Finding someone to have sex with shouldn't be difficult, so leave the animals alone. God.

Side: no
goodmale(1457) Disputed
1 point

Most zoosexual don't feel for humans. So what is your next argument.

Side: yes
BookBird101(575) Clarified
1 point

I'm not sure I understand what you mean. "Most zoosexual don't feel for humans"?

Side: no
1 point

I feel that there is a massive consent issue here as animals cant properly convey consent through action and certainty not language. I could say more but id rather wait for a dispute so i can argue with what might be disagreed with.

Side: no
goodmale(1457) Disputed
3 points

They can show it with consent in there language. And we humans are smart to understand there language. Also they can understand are language to. They can't learn as much language from us as we can from them. But they can show it.

Side: yes
Shadow29(148) Disputed
2 points

Ok i see your point and you are not entirely wrong when you say humans can understand animals, but it is to a degree. The problem is how do we decipher what consent would be and what a primal desire for pleasure would be. Ill use dogs for example, for dogs understanding humans, i believe though they can associate what is being said to a object or outcome and maybe even definition to some extent, but they wouldn't truly understand what the likes of consent is. As the maximum dog intelligence is that of a human toddler; you could tell a human toddler what the definition of consent is and even if they remember it they wouldn't know what it meant to give it, how it affects them and the consequences. This in a way applies to dogs aswell. Just because they can know a word doesn't mean they understand it. This applies to most domestic animals aswell. Ive seen you put that animals can convey consent through action, could you please elaborate?

Side: no
goodmale(1457) Disputed
1 point

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Side: yes
1 point

no, that is why there are other humans to have sex with, some other animals do it, because they just care about breeding but to me it doesn't matter if the animals like it or not its wrong and nasty. (in my opinion)

Side: no
goodmale(1457) Disputed
2 points

But I don't want to have sex with another human, That is nasty and wrong. In my opinion. I want to have sex with the one I love and care about, And that would be my dog.

Side: yes
Grady(10) Clarified
1 point

i also have heard some say that why not, it could advance the species, or that something better and smarter than humans could come out of it, but it seems to me that since we still cant teach monkeys to make music, art, or have feelings and emotions not tied to dependency or food, i don't see how having sex with a monkey isn't just going to get you an ugly, hairy, clueless son, with an obsession of bananas.

Side: no
goodmale(1457) Clarified
2 points

Animals do feel love. Monkeys are smart they do know music. They can also make music. I am not sure if they know about art. But that doesn't mean they can't learn it.

Side: no
goodmale(1457) Clarified
1 point

Animals do feel love. Monkeys are smart they do know music. They can also make music. I am not sure if they know about art. But that doesn't mean they can't learn it.

Side: no
1 point

Well yes, I have to agree that it is wrong to have sexual relationships with an animal; we had to domesticate dogs just so that we could own them... But now you would like to have a sexual relationship? Well let's see... first of all, sex with an animal is probably going to be dangerous. Most humans wash their hands after touching an animal, so who knows what could happen after you give them that anal... plus, we don't know how the animals would respond. Maybe they would consider it okay to pursue sexual relationships with other people. It isn't abnormal for inter species sex to occur...

See https://www.aardvarknyc.com/about/dolphins-rape-people/

so we don't really know what kind of territory we are crossing into. I'm actually afraid of an animal subjected to sex with humans could come up and rape me... but that is highly improbable and just my speculation. Plus they have those claws, considering we are restricting this to dogs and cats.

They can't consent properly; even if they agree to it, they don't have the same foresight as an adult... same concept with fucking a 14 year old. Another point, we don't know how this would affect either "partner's" body. Well I don't. Alas, a simple Google search for "Effects of bestiality" does not result in anything relevant. Plus, imagine a society where bestiality is normal and we use dogs for sex all the time... Uuuugh.

Side: no
1 point

No. No. No. That is disgusting and they cannot consent. You're raping the animal. If sex with an animal is okay you're saying rape is okay. You are literally raping the animal because it's "okay". You have just made rape "okay". So it should never be legal.

Side: no

Since animals can't consent, it would be wrong. The animals should be left alone.

Side: no
3 points

Yes true they can't say they are not ok or are ok with it. But they can show it with consent in there language. And we humans are smart to understand there language. Also they can understand are language to. They can't learn as much language from us as we can from them. But they can show it and there is my fact opinion.

Side: yes
2 points

You sir are fucked up.

Side: no
goodmale(1457) Disputed
3 points

And your sir are stupid. Don't say anything on this because you don't have any logic on this topic.

Side: yes
1 point

Even if your logic is persistent and true, having sexual contact to a dog for example doesn't make it any less vile or wrong. That's even funny how the title asks governments approval to fk animals, it just sounds insanely wrong. But just that fact, when animals can interfere with humans in some sort of way, it would make a good excuse to have sex with the animal? You didn't say the reason, or at least I can't see it.

Side: no
goodmale(1457) Disputed
1 point

It not even wrong at all. If you think it is then, Please argue why it is and make your argument smart and long.

Side: yes
goodmale(1457) Disputed
1 point

Lets make a scenario in saying you are right and it does become illegal in the hole world. So here that would be more bad then good because zoophilia and bestilty will still do it and there would be like 2 million more crime cases in the world and america and other countries don't have the space or money and supplies to deal with 2 million prisoners. It would be like D day but a 100 times bigger !!!

Also there will be alot of suicides and some of us will not go down with out a fight and that will mean killings. I mean I don't think you would want to be killed just because you split up love.

Also even for people that don't do the act again and don't commit suicide. What would you tell them on how to satisfy there sexaul feelings because you can't say live alone then your will be the wrong one and you can't say either find a human because most have already tried that.

Side: yes
3 points

I love my friend why do you guys make him so mad. I mean whats the big deal he can't give him self to the one he loves. I am the one that has to live a wall away from him. I am for sure not a person that likes seeing apart of my family sad. You should understand that he has worked so hard to be where he is know.

Side: yes
2 points

Thanks for all your opinions. But I think I am not going to say to much to my friend about it. Because I see that she just loves him and would do anything for him. Just like I would do anything for my boy.

Side: yes
1 point

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Side: yes