should we take god away from government? yes or no
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Our government is a reflection of "We the people" .... what we believe and the standards of Biblical morality ... In God we trust ... ONE Nation under God ... America = the platform for the advancement of the Christian faith .... The propitious smiles of Heaven can never be expected on a nation that disregards the eternal rules of order and right which Heaven itself has ordained .... George Washington ..... It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible .... George Washington ..... Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other .... John Adams .... etc etc etc ... answer = no If the US government is sincerely committed to being a government of people, then it is inconsistent with that end to make it an instrument of the Christian faith. If all people are to be represented then pluralism is requisite, and because not all Americans are Christians this means that the government cannot be an instrument of only Christian faith. Many of the founding fathers and their constituents would find your suggestion that the US should be an instrument of religion repugnant. For many of them, that relationship between state and religion is precisely what compelled them to make the expensive and dangerous transoceanic migration to the colonies in the first place. It is also an element in enlightenment era philosophy. And, although it is overstated, this also factored into the move for independence. This is why the Bill of Rights includes an express Establishment Clause rendering your exact proposal expressly unconstitutional. The founding fathers indeed ensured that religion would be kept apart from the government. They saw how bad shit can get when religious idiots have governmental influence. They also knew the dangers of a theocracy. Anytime gods get put into the mix, you begin to exit reality and you enter into a dangerous fantasy land. Look at some of the crazy murderous shit Yahweh did in the Bible. Google "evil acts by Yahweh" and see what you find. You surely don't want that, do ya? LOL SS Once again you show your ignorance. Prayer and reference to God was not only common, it was sanctioned and conducted in Congress and cited as the basis of reason in all of the founding documents of the nation. George Washington, call him a pervert, deist, Mason, whatever.......he still held a ceremony with the national leaders on the church grounds which later became ground zero of the Twin Towers where he dedicated the country to God and warned of judgments which would fall on the nation if we turn our back on God who was credited as divine providence for giving us a nation. The founding fathers had no intention to exclude exercise of and reference to faith in God from the workings of government. Slappy, the more you talk, the more challenging it becomes for me to hold myself back from calling you a blooming idiot with a bit mouth pretending to know what you are talking about when all you are doing is blowing your farts out the wrong end. Google evil acts of big mouth idiots who talk like they know everything and prove they are ignorant. There you go with your stupid straw man argument again. The things you are talking about cannot be God, and arguing that they cannot be God because they do not exist outside of your imagination is stupid, isn't it? Yes, it's stupid. God cannot be imagined, and He does not cease to exist when you stop thinking about Him. God does not compare to things you can imagine which do not exist outside of your imagination. God is independent of your imagination. You can't make God go away by saying he's like a fairy in your skull which stops existing when you stop thinking about Him. All you are doing is committing suicide and enjoying it as much as you can while you can. whether we say no or yes, if an omnipresent god exists he is always present in everything at his will and he has his own decisions beyond human understanding. if there is god no one is above him therefore he cannot be dictated by any life form to be or not to be present at something. the question is, is there god? whether there is or there is no god , the question is unanswerable by yes or no... Right enough until you said the question is unanswerable. The question is not unanswerable except that you have put up a mental block trying to exclude God from ruling over you. God is God and always has been and always will be. The fact that you say you do not know if God is God or not only proves that you say you do not know if God is God or not. You could know what I know but it would change your life and you don't want that. You are more comfortable saying it is not possible for you to know. God determines who rules nations, God determines who wins wars, God has an appointment set for you to die and you will be there at that appointed time. Then you will be judged. The fire of Hell is a judgement against sin. It is not the final judgement, but if you find yourself in Hell you will be cast away into the lake of fire which is the second death after the final judgment. You're in the first death now. What is a God? What is god? What are you talking about? what is it? You are not being clear what you are talking about. What is it that you are calling "god" or "a God"? What is "a God"? What is "god"? What is it? I don't care what Kirtgaurd said, he's dead and gone and I can't talk to him. I think he was an idiot anyways, I'm really not interested in what he said, I am asking you what you say "a God" is, or what you say "god" is. Theistic paternalism includes any act wherein a theist forces someone who doesn't share their beliefs to live by them under the auspices of caring for that person. It is a rational concern, given that literally the only possible outcome of a theocracy is that it imposes religious views on others under the auspices of caring for everyone's souls (or whatever). It is also realistic, given that I have already experienced theistic paternalism as a restriction my own autonomy in a nation that is relatively secular. 1
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look this is simple to help you the things we say like karma we (or most) know that that is true do something bad some bad happens how did that come into existence also god is a big mystery he might not be but what if he is what happens to the ones who say hes not also if we was to want to see him what is we going to do its not like we die see him and come back and tell every one hes real cause we no if we die there might not be no coming back but maybe every thing has an explanation rather if he is or hes not |
