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Debate Score:64
Arguments:40
Total Votes:70
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the legal sex and marrige age should stay the same - sex before marrige is wrong

bring in religion

bring in law

bring in histroy

but PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR VIEW ON THIS!

yes

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2 points

if we lower the "making love" age then we will increse teenage pregnancy rates. Do you want that??? (stern, I know I'm right face)

Side: yes
1 point

Yes Sex before marriage is wrong because it is a sin. Here is why it is a sin.

Question: "What does the Bible say about sex before marriage?"

Answer: There is no Hebrew or Greek word used in the Bible that precisely refers to sex before marriage. The Bible undeniably condemns adultery and sexual immorality, but is sex before marriage considered sexually immoral? According to 1 Corinthians 7:2, “yes” is the clear answer: “But since there is so much immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman her own husband.” In this verse, Paul states that marriage is the “cure” for sexual immorality. First Corinthians 7:2 is essentially saying that, because people cannot control themselves and so many are having immoral sex outside of marriage, people should get married. Then they can fulfill their passions in a moral way.

Since 1 Corinthians 7:2 clearly includes sex before marriage in the definition of sexual immorality, all of the Bible verses that condemn sexual immorality as being sinful also condemn sex before marriage as sinful. Sex before marriage is included in the biblical definition of sexual immorality. There are numerous Scriptures that declare sex before marriage to be a sin (Acts 15:20; 1 Corinthians 5:1; 6:13, 18; 10:8; 2 Corinthians 12:21; Galatians 5:19; Ephesians 5:3; Colossians 3:5; 1 Thessalonians 4:3; Jude 7). The Bible promotes complete abstinence before marriage. Sex between a husband and his wife is the only form of sexual relations of which God approves (Hebrews 13:4).

Far too often we focus on the “recreation” aspect of sex without recognizing that there is another aspect—procreation. Sex within marriage is pleasurable, and God designed it that way. God wants men and women to enjoy sexual activity within the confines of marriage. Song of Solomon and several other Bible passages (such as Proverbs 5:19) clearly describe the pleasure of sex. However, the couple must understand that God’s intent for sex includes producing children. Thus, for a couple to engage in sex before marriage is doubly wrong—they are enjoying pleasures not intended for them, and they are taking a chance of creating a human life outside of the family structure God intended for every child.

While practicality does not determine right from wrong, if the Bible's message on sex before marriage were obeyed, there would be far fewer sexually transmitted diseases, far fewer abortions, far fewer unwed mothers and unwanted pregnancies, and far fewer children growing up without both parents in their lives. Abstinence is God’s only policy when it comes to sex before marriage. Abstinence saves lives, protects babies, gives sexual relations the proper value, and, most importantly, honors God.

Side: yes
iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
5 points

You mean this? link

You should downvote yourself for copy and pasting an argument without crediting the source. That's called stealing. I think that's a sin or something.

It's a moronic diatribe anyway, I have no idea why you'd choose to post it on a debate site. It's written by the religious indoctrinated for the religious indoctrinated, nothing more.

What if a married couple can't have kids because one or the other is impotent? Is it then a sin to have sex?

If it's not then why is it a sin for someone else to have sex without having kids?

There are quite enough children in the world, and any god who would deny one utterly and completely harmless sex for no reason but "because I said so" is not at all worthy of worship.

And there are millions of couples not married who do fine raising kids, better than many traditional christian parents in fact judging by how dumb these christian kids grow up to be.

Side: No
Srom(12207) Disputed
3 points

Its not called stealing. I go to that website because it has good Bible answers

Well it was a Bible answer. Did you know that when Daniel was in the Bible Podifers wife wanted to have sex with him and he kept saying no. Podifers wife ripped a part of Daniels clothing and Daniel and Podifers wife was alone and no one saw them and so Podifers wife told the people and Daniel was commited of rape. Thats why you shouldn't have sex before marriage because the person can charge with rape if you and the only person is there they can charge you of rape.

Also the person can leave you at any time and leave your house and never come back again and then stuck with a child.

Side: yes
Uspwns101(444) Disputed
3 points

Do you ever get tired of being so incredibly cynical? I understand the part about the link but you really have to go out there and insult every single Christian raised by their Christian parents. There may be millions (care to cite a source) of parents who raise children successfully not married, but on average children with married parents are in a better place then those that aren't.

I realize the source isn't perfect but it gets my point across.

Supporting Evidence: Parent study (www.clasp.org)
Side: yes
casper3912(1581) Disputed
3 points

Why should sins be illegal ?

Side: No
Srom(12207) Disputed
3 points

Sins happen everyday. Don't you see all the murder,lying,cheating,and all the wrong things that happen everyday. Its none stop.

Side: yes

I think sex is a form of pure pure love. Sex entirely based on lust is not good , even mentally. Sex is something so intimate that marriage best suits it. Marriage is all about extreme love. Sex is being used as a tool for pleasure and while there is nothing wrong with that it should be used with love in it, not pure lust. Really my point is that marriage is about love which leads to sex. And pre-marital sex is like a scar. Let's not forget it stops spreading diseases. A scientific reason, not a moral one.

Side: yes

If something doesn't harm another human being, it's not wrong. While I personally detest the lifestyle of being promiscuous, it doesn't always hurt people to be apart of such a lifestyle. Sometimes it does, in which case, it's also wrong alongside being detestable in my mind.

But having sex with someone you romantically love before a wedding... why not? You love them. Sex with someone you love, even if before marriage, at an appropriate age strengthens a relationship. There is even scientific evidence to suggest that our brains are programmed to be more emotionally attached to someone we've shared a relationship with and then had sex with.

So once again, if something does not harm another human being, it is not wrong. The very idea something could be wrong without harming another human being is just... well... silly.

Side: No
Spadedude(227) Disputed
1 point

If you love someone so much you would like ot have sex with them but don't want to get married is "just... well... silly". also, there is "scientific proof" that being a single mum effects the intelligence, criminal record and health of their children. If your partner leaves you then you can do nothing, and are left a single mum.

Besides, love and lust are different. Today's society are throwing their virginity and bodies round without a though as they are in "love". No. they cannot contrrol their lust.

Side: yes
chatturgha(1630) Disputed
0 points

If you love someone so much you would like ot have sex with them but don't want to get married is "just... well... silly".

You're right. I never said anything that goes against this point. I don't know why you're putting words in my mouth and disputing me in this fashion.

also, there is "scientific proof" that being a single mum effects the intelligence, criminal record and health of their children. If your partner leaves you then you can do nothing, and are left a single mum.

Once again, I did not advocate single parenting. I don't know where you're getting your argument from, because it certainly has nothing to do with anything I said.

Besides, love and lust are different. Today's society are throwing their virginity and bodies round without a though as they are in "love". No. they cannot contrrol their lust.

You're right. And? Are you actually going to make a real disputing point yet? You haven't said anything yet that has anything to do with what I said. I don't see what the point of your jabbering is.

Side: No
1 point

I'm a little confused by your topic. Can you please clarify? What does the legal age of marriage have to do with the morality of sex before marriage?

Side: no
1 point

He or she is asking if the "legal" age to have sex should be changed to 18 and over, since that is the age one can sign into the contract of marriage I'm assuming.

I believe it's ignoring age of consent, and instead is focused on say, two high school sophomores having sex with eachother - those devils would be sent to jail or something I guess.

Side: No
2 points

That's idiotic. By the same logic we must also outlaw out-of-wedlock sex between adults as well, which would be unconstitutional. Age of consent laws are intended to prevent adults from taking advantage of children. If we are to make laws they cannot be based solely on particular tenets of religion, but rather on reasons agreeable to people of all faiths or of no faith (i.e. earthly considerations).

Side: No
1 point

No offense to anyone on the "yes" side, but you can't bring religion into this argument. Sure, it applies to the heavily-religious, and yes, you can reference the Bible and make the argument swing your way if it was a religious argument, BUT it isn't. This argument is over the general public, and the fact of the matter is, not everyone is a religious Christian like some of you are. So yes, sex before marriage is a sin, but it does not mean that the law should be altered just to fit your desires.

Side: No
Spadedude(227) Disputed
2 points

maybe as their life is built upon God, they ought to be allowed ti bring him into the argument. He is part of their life. and majority of this nation is christian.

Side: yes
Troy8(2431) Disputed
1 point

Religion can be used as a reason why you yourself are for aor against something. However, it cannot be used as a basis for a ban or legalization that affects those that do not adhere to these religious ideas or beliefs.

Side: yes
1 point

You favor a dictatorship? Next, you will try to kill off the dissidents. Or, are you even aware of what that type of goverment will bring?

But really, prohibiting sex before marriage will not stop people from doing it if they really want to. In my state, it is actually illegal for a couple to have sex unless it's for procreating. People still do it. And that's where it gets personal. I know a lot of people like you who believe no sex until marriage also believe that sex is only for procreation. What a miserable way of thinking! I'm celibate, but I don't want children. People like you (unless you, heaven forbid, are not one of those people) are one reason why I don't want babies.

Side: No
1 point

Why would you marry someone if you don't know how good the sex will be? (Or won't be- I don't even want to have to imagine being stuck with someone who was forever a 2 minute man) That's just not practical. Divorce rates are already so high!

Side: No
Spadedude(227) Disputed
1 point

so you only have sleep with someone to see how nice it is with them, and that is the main factor in deciding who to marry? "Divorce rates are already so high". this is why.

Side: yes
1 point

What about people who don't care for marriage, or aren't allowed to marry?

For example, my mom and her boyfriend have been together for over sixteen years. They're not allowed to have sex, just because they aren't married?

I personally don't know their reasons for not getting married, but they have been together longer than some married couples. And I seriously believe that the PROOF of commitment like that is more worthy of being able to make love than a stupid legal document, or a stupid ceremony.

Or what about gay couples? They actually CAN'T get married in some areas, so they should never be allowed to move on to that stage in their relationship?

I personally think you should be able to have sex with anyone that is worth it to you. Whether you're married or not. And whether you're going to spend the rest of your life with them or not.

Side: no
Spadedude(227) Disputed
3 points

No one said to make it law, only to keep the ages the same to encourage no sex before marridge. I never said anything about making it a law. Its a choice but it encourages people not to because they can get hurt from it.

Besides, if its not law HOW THE HECK can it affect gay couples as if the can't get married, its a different matter. I never mentioned civil partnerships.

Side: yes
Saurbaby(5579) Disputed
1 point

Where did I talk about making a law in my argument?

And I explained why sex before marriage is okay. I said nothing about ages or anything like that, mostly because I was only replying to the second part you made as the debate title. Which, now that I'm talking about it, you fail at making a debate. There was really no question to answer, and you kind of made two topics in one debate.

And once again, I was talking about why sex before marriage should be acceptable. -__-

Side: no