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Debate Score:38
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trintiy fact or fiction


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Side Score: 37
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iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
2 points

Griffins: Lion's head, snakes for a tail, and eagle wings, this is a Griffin. fact.

Hm, guess them must be real then ._.

Side: Fiction

Griffins: Lion's head, snakes for a tail, and eagle wings, this is a Griffin. fact.

The lion's head and the snake tail actually belong to the flightless Chimera. The Griffin has an eagle's head and wings and a lion's body.

Side: Fiction
1 point

Ye Flying Spaghetti Monster: Amylose, bolognese and magic. This is the Levitating Polysaccharide Horror. Fact.

Side: Fiction
5 points

It's Christian Mythology. They're the only ones who believe in it. Of course it's fiction.

Side: Fiction
AntiUncleC(12) Disputed
2 points

depends what your definition of a christian is doesn't it.................... as there are loads of denominations of christians that don't believe in it too

Side: Fiction
5 points

It's an opinionated belief. Nothing more. I think it's funny when some Christians freak out when someone dismisses their beliefs as mere fairy tales.

Side: Fiction
5 points


The minimum length for an argument is 50 characters. The purpose of this restriction is to cut down on the amount of dumb jokes, so we can keep the quality of debate and discourse as high as possible.

Side: Fiction

I get the father/son bit, but what's up with the holy ghost? Could you explain that part to me (whether you do this before or after I'm banned from the debate is inconsequential, as I'll still be able to read your response should you chose to make one).

Side: Fiction
2 points

Tis da spirit of God n Jesus but jesus has the power of god

but der we go i don believe in it but tis complicated

as i am a christadelphian

well at least 1 of dis group using dis user is.

Side: Fiction
2 points

Unless we someone see produced before us a holy father, son and ghost, it is safe to assume that they are fiction.

Side: Fiction
2 points

hi all readers

compliment of the day

for those still not clear about the trinity fraud.

the verses below is a very good example of trinitarian formula absence. as you all know baptism ritual is a very crucial step towards YHWH and is the agreement between you and GOD. the absence of the trinitarian formula is clear that in gospel times there are no trinity doctrine.

i just need to share some of my research on the trinity issues. Unfortunately for the christians trinity is more likely to be fake then real. heres why...

Mark(48-55) 1:8

Lk(57-62) 3:16

Mt(65-70) 3:11

Jhn(90-100) 1:33

Acts(62-63) 1:5

The above Baptism verses are the example of trinity fraud ;none of the early gospels had ever baptized by the trinity formula ; the holy spirit ,father and the son.

bur the verses above in general are of "John baptized you with .......& then jesus will come to baptized you with ........(over here should be in trinitarian formula but its not) "

These baptisms formulas from the above mentioned verses is very explicit ,that showed the doctrine of trinity was NOT adopted during Jesus time and beyond. Ancient records showed NOt until 325AD.

However ,the only trinity formula was in the Mat 28:19 and it was a later changed and added the trinity formula after the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD By Constantine orders. there are many references to show the verse is not real too & i will let you readers know later,

Later the church confessed about the Mat 28:19

"The baptismal Formula was changed from the name of Jesus christ to the words the father ,son, and holy spirit in the second century." (see catholic encyclopedia Vol. 2 ,page 263 & youtube)

best regards


"How well we know ,

what profitable superstition this Fable of christ

has been for us."

Pope Leo X (1513-1521)

Side: Fiction

considering the fact that i am delphi i believe that the trinity would completely cancel out the meaning of the crucifiction thus its kind of stupid...

Side: fiction
1 point

The Bible is very, very clear. I hope You can come to know the God of the Bible and repent and be baptised in the name Of the Father, and The Son and The Holy Spirit.

That name is - The Lord Yahoshua, The Anointing.

Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be Baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ, For the remission of sins, & ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost Acts 2:38

GA 3:27...... For as many of you as have been BAPTIZED into Christ have put on Christ

1Cor 1:13...... Is Christ divided? ..was Paul crucified for you? or were ye BAPTIZED in the name of Paul?

Rom 6:3...... Know ye not, that so many of us as were BAPTIZED into Jesus Christ were BAPTIZED into his death?

Acts 19:5 ...... When they heard this, they were BAPTIZED in the name of the Lord Jesus

Acts 10:48...... and he commanded them to be BAPTIZED in the name of the Lord Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

Acts 8:16...... (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were.. BAPTIZED in the name of the Lord Jesus.)

Acts 8:12...... But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, & the name of Jesus

Christ, they were BAPTIZED.

Acts 19:3-5 ......"They were baptized unto Johns baptism. } Paul, SAID YOU are to BELIEVE ON CHRIST JESUS...... When they heard this they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus."

Luk 24:47 Repentance and remission of sins should be preached in HIS NAME among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

Acts 4:12: "Neither is there salvation in any other: For there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved."

The name of Jesus Christ is a declaration of who He is

1. Wonderful - 2. Counsellor - 3. The mighty God - 4. The everlasting Father 5. The Prince of Peace

When you mention the name Jesus Christ you are calling upon all the names mentioned in Isa. 9:6

Acts 2:36 "Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ."


Here the Catholics acknowledged that baptism was changed by the Catholic Church. Vol. 2, pg. 263.

CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA reads the following...

...There has been theological controversy over the question as to whether baptism in the name of Christ only was ever held valid. St. Paul commands disciples at Ephesus to be baptized in Christ's name:

"They were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus." In Acts 10, St. Peter ordered others to be baptized "in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ". Philip ordered to baptized in the name of Jesus Christ". We have the explicit command of Peter "Be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ, for the remission of your sins (Acts, ii).

Pope Stephen required an explicit mention of the Trinity in baptism, for he quotes the pontiff as declaring that the sacramental grace is conferred because a person

has been baptized "with the invocation of the names of the Trinity, Father & Son & Holy Ghost"

Encyclopedia of Religion & Ethics (1951). II, 384, 389: "The formula used was "in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ" or some synonymous phrase; there is no evidence for the use of the trine name The earliest form, represented in the Acts, was simple immersion in water, the use of the name of the Lord, & the laying on of hands. To these were added, at various times & places which cannot be safely identified, (a) the trine name (Justin)"

Interpreter's Dictionary of the Bible (1962), I 351: "The evidence suggests that baptism in early Christianity was administered, not in the threefold name, but 'in the name of Jesus Christ' or 'in the name of the Lord Jesus.'"

Otto Heick, A History of Christian Thought (1965), I, 53: "At first baptism was administered in the name of Jesus, but gradually in the name of the Triune God: Father, Son, & Holy Spirit.

Hasting's Dictionary of the Bible (1898). I, 241: "[One explanation is that] the original form of words was "into the name of Jesus Christ" or 'the Lord Jesus,' Baptism into the name of the Trinity was a later development."

Williston Walker, A History of the Christian Church (1947), page 58: "The trinitarian baptismal formula,,, was displacing the older baptism in the name of Christ."

The New Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge (1957), I, 435: "The New Testament knows only baptism in the name of Jesus which still occurs even in the second & third centuries."

Canney's Encyclopedia of Religions (1970), page 53: "Persons were baptized at first 'in the name of Jesus Christ' or 'in the name of the Lord Jesus' Afterwards, with the development of the doctrine of the Trinity, they were baptized 'in the name of the Father & of the Son & of the Holy Ghost.'"

Encyclopedia Biblica (1899), I, 473: "It is natural to conclude that baptism was administered in the earliest times 'in the name of Jesus Christ,' or in that 'of the Lord Jesus.' This view is confirmed by the fact that the earliest forms of the baptismal confession appear to have been single-not triple, as was the later creed."

Encyclopedia Britannica, 11th ed. (1920), II 365: "The trinitarian formula & trine immersion were not uniformly used from the beginning Bapti[sm] into the name of the Lord [was] the normal formula of the New Testament. In the 3rd century baptism in the name of Christ was still so widespread that Pope Stephen, in opposition to Cyprian of Carthage, declared it to be valid."

FAUSSETS BIBLE ENCYCLOPEDIA, page 359 - Jesus. Means Jehovah Salvation. "Peter replied, Repent, & be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of ...the authenticity of water baptism today in the name of Jesus Christ, cannot be denied !

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