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Debate Score:182
Arguments:137
Total Votes:186
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Is a animal worth the same to life as a human

 With out animal humans would not live and with out human animals would not live. 

As in saying we need animal testing and animals need cures.

As in saying we are both worth the same that we can't live with out each other. 

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Side Score: 94
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no

Side Score: 88
3 points

Oww, I see what you saying. There not the same because animals are worth more to us. And humans are not worth much to them. I do believe with out animals humans would not lived through out history. But I think animals would not need us I think they would be fine with out us. Just in case that was not what you meant. Yes I think animals are people to. But I would still choose a human over a animal. Uless it a old person or a unborn child.

Side: Yes
2 points

Animals are just worth the same as a human. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: Yes
mithoo19(806) Disputed
2 points

yes they are the same worth.. but, in the same place people eat them as food

Side: no
goodmale(1457) Disputed
2 points

And animals eat us as food. what is your point. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: Yes
2 points

How do you think humans would have lived if there are no animals. I mean with out animals we would not live. Humans are not more important. How would we do chemical testing. Or cures. how would plants grow.

Side: Yes
2 points

With out animals there would be no humans. They must be worth the same or even more. Animals allow food and plants to grow. They help us keep warm. They helped with cures.

Side: Yes
2 points

First, Humans made themselves to be above the creatures we call animals. Ironically, animals can live without humans but humans can't live without animals. Humans hunt animals for food, clothes, and other things which are all essential to then human's survival. For animals are essential to us, then they have great value.

Second, animals has always been essential to the development of the human race. In the field of medicine, animal testing has provided cures and discoveries that have benefited humans. According to the president of the foundation for Biomedical Research, Frankie Trull, through animal research, there are numerous discoveries that are found through animals, "From antibiotics to blood transfusions, from dialysis to organ-transplantation, from vaccinations to chemotherapy, bypass surgery and joint replacement, practically every present-day protocol for the prevention, treatment, cure and control of disease, pain and suffering is based on knowledge attained through research with animals."

Third, Animal's inability to think rationally does not make them worthless. Animals as companion and pet have benefited humans. Some dogs and miniature horses have served as a guide to blind humans. Animals of different kinds that served as pets have been able to relieve human from stress and have given humans unconditional love. In fact dogs have save thousands of human lives in different kinds of situations.

Animals though they may not understand the human language, deserve respect and care. They have helped humans through different aspects. They are taken for granted. They are worth more than what they are.

Side: Yes
3 points

First, Humans made themselves to be above the creatures we call animals. Ironically, animals can live without humans but humans can't live without animals. Humans hunt animals for food, clothes, and other things which are all essential to then human's survival. For animals are essential to us, then they have great value.

Second, animals has always been essential to the development of the human race. In the field of medicine, animal testing has provided cures and discoveries that have benefited humans. According to the president of the foundation for Biomedical Research, Frankie Trull, through animal research, there are numerous discoveries that are found through animals, "From antibiotics to blood transfusions, from dialysis to organ-transplantation, from vaccinations to chemotherapy, bypass surgery and joint replacement, practically every present-day protocol for the prevention, treatment, cure and control of disease, pain and suffering is based on knowledge attained through research with animals.

I contest that as it is humans discussing this subject matter, simple rational self interest makes us more important than the animals are. Secondly, your assertion of value doesn't work either; everything we use comes from basic raw materials, but the end product is generally more valued than the raw materials. A pair of shoes is more valuable than the combined value of the leather, plant and/or synthetic materials, metal, and other raw materials that are used to make them. This concept is referred to as a 'value added product,' and it is among the most basic cornerstones of economics- and not just in capitalism.

Third, Animal's inability to think rationally does not make them worthless. Animals as companion and pet have benefited humans. Some dogs and miniature horses have served as a guide to blind humans. Animals of different kinds that served as pets have been able to relieve human from stress and have given humans unconditional love. In fact dogs have save thousands of human lives in different kinds of situations.

Animals though they may not understand the human language, deserve respect and care. They have helped humans through different aspects. They are taken for granted. They are worth more than what they are.

You're right that animals inability to think rationally does not make them worthless. You are also right that they are deserving of respect and care, and that they have helped humans in numerous ways. You are also right in saying that they are truly worth more than the value typically assigned to them. You have not, however, made a case for either the objective or subjective value of an animal being equal to or greater than that of a human.

Side: no
vertillano5(10) Disputed
2 points

Read the details of the proposition. The details says that without animal, humans would not live and with out human, animals would not live. As in saying we need animal testing and animals need cures. As in saying we are both worth the same that we can't live with out each other.

Are these statements true? Obviously, which are the main points of my arguments though I don't agree with the proposition that without humans, animals would not live; as you can see in my first argument. Even though humans have the ability to create something from raw materials, there will be no creation without the raw materials. Human development was not without the help of animals. There are many important discoveries that are only possible through the help of animals. Therefore animals have equal worth with humans.

Now, the proposition is broad but it's still fun debating about it.

Side: Yes
1 point

Good argument.

Side: no
2 points

I know he is talking about. Animal are worth the same If there was no animals there would be no plants. If there are no plants or animals we would die. There has been lots of diseases and other things that if humans did not solve. The animals would have die. There for we are both worth the same to life.

Side: Yes
1 point

People pay thousands for animals. people pay humans nothing. I mean I get payed but I had to work for it.

Side: Yes
Cartman(18192) Disputed
2 points

Humans Spend Far More On Humans Than They Spend On Pets.

Side: no
goodmale(1457) Disputed
2 points

It because we have to. Not because we want to. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: Yes

If it wasn't for other Animals there wouldn't be no Us. Other Animals don't need is, but we need them.

Side: Yes
1 point

Yes, we were both put on this earth and even though many people think that we rule this world, we truly don't. Without animals this earth would not be balanced. We seem to forget that animals were on this earth before us, they had this land before we came in and shoved them out of the way, killing them with no mercy whats so ever. I have an extremely high opinion on animal rights so I enjoy arguing for them : )

Side: Yes
6 points

I don't believe anyone truly believes this, including to original poster. If we accepted this view then it would mean they have the same right to unemployment benefits, housing, health care etc. On the other hand it would also mean that they would have to accept the same social responsibilities as humans. For example, following laws, social customs etc. But of course they cant because they lack the capacity to under what social responsibilities are.

Side: no
goodmale(1457) Disputed
3 points

This is not about giving them rights !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!

Side: Yes
Atrag(5556) Disputed
4 points

How can they be of the same value but not deserve the same rights? Is the word 'value' merely poetic to you?

Side: no

Hypothetical situation:

You have to choose between saving your pet or saving a person who you hate.

I choose my pet.

You have to choose between saving your pet or saving a person who you love.

I choose the person who I love.

Side: no
2 points

Humans Are Top Of The Food Chain, Highly Intelligent, And More Important Than Animals.

Side: no
joecavalry(39995) Clarified
2 points

Not only that but we look a lot better in their fur than they do ;)

Side: Yes
goodmale(1457) Disputed
2 points

Sure that why people don't understand shit. And people pay lots of money on animals.

Side: Yes
Cartman(18192) Disputed
2 points

Name Something People Do Not Understand That A Dog Does.

Side: no
tugger5678 Banned
2 points

Depends on the human. In your case animals are worth more.-----------------------------

Side: no
tugger5678 Banned
2 points

Nice avatar is that you on the bottom? LOLOLOLOL-------------------------------------

Side: no
goodmale(1457) Disputed
2 points

Yes and he is my big lover. I don't feel people in this way. Dog,wolf has always been in my feelings. I am sorry if you can't understand.

Side: Yes
tugger5678 Disputed Banned
1 point

Oh I understand. I understand that you are either a sick disgusting freak or a troll

Side: no
1 point

Not to me. If it was my dog or my mother, I'll have to say that I would miss the dog, but would not feel too bad after replacing it. Maybe in a perfect world I could say yes, but this isn't one.

Side: no
goodmale(1457) Disputed
2 points

This is not about love ones. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: Yes
DrawFour(2662) Disputed
2 points

If the loved one is a human it's still the same argument, but I understand where you are coming from, I'd also save my mother before an innocent bystander.

However you should have already guessed, if it was also just an innocent bystander or a dog, I'd save the innocent bystander first, and the dog second if there was time.

This isn't just my thinking either. The general population tends to rate animals as second class citizens and it's true.

Animals are not allowed to roam freely in the places we create to live. Animals are taken, horded, farmed and use for sustenance. Animal are kept captive and used for entertainment, not to mention disciplined in a way we'd never discipline even a murderer. No rapist has ever had his face rubbed in his victim to show him it was wrong. Nor has a rapist (in modern times) been castrated legally for his crimes, in the U.S.

Worth is not even objective. You could ask if are we (you and myself) are equal in worth. I'll tell you no. If it's my life or your life, I'm choosing my life. What would you choose, honestly?

Side: no
goodmale(1457) Disputed
2 points

I gave you proof. I gave you examples. I gave you facts. You can't argue with facts that pessed me off that you did that.

Side: Yes
DrawFour(2662) Clarified
2 points

Hm... Odd, that's exactly what I said. Whatever child.

Side: Yes
Anna01(16) Clarified
2 points

Yes but that is a bias, meaning a personal opinion. I think they're saying all animals vs. humans. See what I mean?

Side: Yes
DrawFour(2662) Clarified
1 point

That's one of the points I addressed in one of my later arguments. Worth isn't even an objective thing. Worth varies with every person.

Side: Yes

Human organs are worth more than animal organs.

Side: no
goodmale(1457) Disputed
1 point

That is true. But how do you think that was possible. It was because of animal testing.

Side: Yes
Intangible(4933) Disputed
2 points

No. It's possible because the corthaghian prolifrigum had established the equation for the cortex of your mind's cerebellum.

What this means is, that your response made no sense. :(

Side: no
1 point

Nope, we are worth more than animals.

Side: no
goodmale(1457) Disputed
1 point

So lets just kill the animals. Because there not important for us to live.

Side: Yes
Srom(12207) Disputed
1 point

Animals still reproduce so it's not like we're going to run out of animals.

Side: no
1 point

They are tastier

They are tastier

They are tastier

They are tastier

They are tastier

They are tastier

Side: no
1 point

Based on average actuarial values, a human is worth more than an animal.

Side: no