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 who is more insaine or who would win in a fight CARNAGE or the joker (17)

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who is more insaine or who would win in a fight CARNAGE or the joker

who do you think is the more dangerous villan either mentaly physicaly or both

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2 points

i think that carnage could easily beat the joker in a fight because he has all the powers of Spider-Man and he can shape the symbiote into bladed weapons that can also be detached and used as lethal projectiles, plus he also has tendrils that can be used to grab and hold people from a distance. I also think that carnage is way more insane than the joker because he kills for fun and even when he isn't killing he is thinking about how he is going to kill next. here is a quote from carnage in his comic book mind bomb.

"Well, let's begin... my name is Cletus Kasady and I kill people and I LOVE it. I know nine million ways to kill a body and I love every ONE of them. All dull day every day right up until I hit the hay I think of bodies bodies slit right up the middle and shared across a hundred nice little gardens. And when I sleep I dream of ways to kill a body that ain't nobody thought of yet. And occasionally I dream of mom and pop squirting into that old garbage disposal and just grinding and gnawing on the old man's skull.

You're probably asking... WHY do I kill... well, simple answer. It's PRETTY. Waking up in the morning and knowing you're going to kill someone... it's a BEAUTIFUL THING. Makes me feel like a GUNSHIP, like my engine's only turning over when I'm MOVING and KILLING. Makes me feel like God on the first monday morning.

I kill because it makes me feel like I'm on TV, with my own personal SOUNDTRACK. Like JFK, brains on the leather and pretty blood on his pretty wife. JFK. NBK. KKK. And his pretty WIFE, now think of it, all wet and humiliated, CRAWLING infront of the whole WORLD. I like THAT, too. When I was a kid, my favorite movies was the Zapruder Film.

I ain't INSPIRED by the media. I INSPIRE the media. I got VIDEOGAMES and TOYS and COMIC BOOKS just because I can KILL a body better than ANYONE. You wouldn't BELIEVE the hundreds of different ways a body DANCES once a BULLET'S been put in it. The SONGS they sing when you cut their throats. The PATTERNS they paint when you make 'em SQUIRT. It's ART. I kill because it's pretty. It's ART.

It's a DULL old world on the surface, ain't it? All grey and nondescript... but THAT'S a LIE. SCRATCH the surface and you reveal the REAL world, all RED and RAW and SENSELESS. And THAT'S the world I LIKE, the WORLD I SHOW you when I kill. The world I AM. I AM that man, eating human sandwiches at the bus stop... making Jefferey Dahmer eyes at the nice young boys, John Wayne Gacy hands a'twitching...

I AM those kids burning dogs and hobos in the dark alleyway. The woman cutting a hole in the tied-to-bed Mr. Goodbar and inserting a vacuum cleaner tube in his stomach. The wife shoving broken glass down the husbands throat. I'm the American flag on fire, the Founding Fathers crucified for a chat show, lies, cursed lies and government. I'm the end of the world as we know it and I feel like a DRINK.

I'm CHAOS. CHAOS and the rest of the world won't ADMIT that it's JUST LIKE ME. And because o' THAT the world is WORTHLESS, it's dirt on my HEEL. Love means NOTHING. It's a planet of mannequins filled with blood and they may as well be torn up and burst and stamped on because what ELSE are they good for? Apart from making noise and being NICE and making MORE stupid little mannequins that sit still for lies and TV and kissy-kissy GARBAGE!

I've told you about the WORST THINGS IN THE WORLD, because THAT'S what the world's made of. EVERYTHING is SICK! Am I getting THROUGH to you? EVERYTHING is SICK and I LOVE IT!!

You see... I'm not mad. CHAOS isn't mad. I've SHOWN you the REAL WORLD. Shown you CHAOS. And hopefully you went sane. But killing chaos... you can't kill CHAOS. And you can't keep it locked up for long."

2 points

oooo I hate to say it but carnage is a beast. As awesome as the joker is he's not much of a fighter he's more of a ....game player. But yeah carnage would rip though the joker fast.

2 points

thank you this is what i have been trying to say carnage is hands down better than the joker as far as fighting insanity and just down right striking fear into the hearts of not only his victims but those who even know who he is. oh and i almost forgot he also beats the joker at being awesome to.

1 point

The Joker is more insane. Although, Carnage would probably win in an outright fight.

marvel(8) Disputed
1 point

i agree that he would win a fight but read my other argument with the mind bomb quote if you haven't already read the ENTIRE quote.

Cynical(1948) Disputed
1 point

Meh. I agree with the fight thing. However, The Joker is and always will be the embodiment of chaos, not Carnage.

0 points

Carnage? Is this the 90s all over again? Who gives a hoot about Carnage anymore?

That being said, he would totally tear Joker to itty bitty pieces. And then maybe eat them.

Far as insanity, well, that's the closest thing to super power ol' Jokey has, so I'd say he's crazier.

marvel(8) Disputed
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WHO GIVES A HOOT ABOUT CRNAGE!? well I do for one and so do a lot of the other people. besides when was the last time joker ate anyone?

IronManic(54) Disputed
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Don't get me wrong, man. For his time, Carnage was great. He is totally hardcore, looks awesome, and his first couple of stories were some of the only good stories in Spider-Man comics that decade. But now, he's just a burn-out. Had his best moments early on, and now is just another second-fiddle legacy villain who just isn't as threatening as he should be. And the whole symbiote thing has become so convoluted and soulless as to negate its original appeal.

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Well I've never heard of this "Carnage" person so it's hard to tell... according to your avatar, it says "Carnage/Family Feud". Now I know there's been a lot of hosts of 'Family feud' but I've never heard of that one but regardless, nobody beats Richard Dawson! Dawson would chew this 'Carnage' guy up, spit him out and make out with his wife!

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AS for who is more insane... well, Louis Anderson has to walk away with the gold for that one. ;D

marvel(8) Disputed
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first of all this is a debate about who is the worst super villain not about comedians and actors and carnage would take Richard Dawson and slowly peel of his skin while he was still alive just to listen to his screams, then he would probably make him watch as he ate his skin.