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communism capitalism
Debate Score:12
Arguments:14
Total Votes:12
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communism

Side Score: 5
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capitalism

Side Score: 7
1 point

friendship, unity, equality, this can make a country boom in a short amount of time just look at Russia in 1916 under capitalism it was a failing country which was on the brink of collapse, but with communism it turned a third world country like Russia into a super power just in a very small amount of time, communism is power

Side: communism
1 point

Any totalitarian authority is power. That doesn't mean it doesn't oppress the people or try to kill its enemies even within its own borders.

Side: capitalism
Antrim(1287) Disputed
1 point

Why don't you go and live in Russia, North Korea or any of the totalitarian dictatorships.

Don't say Russia is not a dictatorship, it is.

If you had the sense to lift the lid on any of the world's communist regimes, past or present you certainly wouldn't see any ''friendship, unity nor equality.

If you really believe that then your head is full of mad dogs shit, if you're just trolling then enjoy yourself and watch you don't get knocked down by the horse trams.

Side: capitalism
-Yuri-(284) Disputed
1 point

Hm on the part you said equality if you look at the USSR every citizen class person was equal.. literally as equal as it gets. oppressed but equal.

Side: communism
kenech(22) Clarified
1 point

look yes communism itself was created as an ideology were people are equal, and are friends and all united together, with peace and harmony, no rich no poor, just unity the soviets gave that a bad name

Side: communism
seanB(950) Disputed
1 point

Totalitarianism and communism aren't interchangeable terms. Name me one society in human history that has been communist in the sense of the concept as Marx put it across in Das Kapital.

I can't think of a single one.

In his book, Marx talks about the establishment of a communal society by the people for the people, centred on redefining value from altruistic, co-operative intentions rather than exploitative, competitive ones.

It's not impossible. It's not even unlikely. Humans practice it all the time, every day when they go to work jobs they hate for shit wages to make some fat-cat in an office rich, then home to their kids to talk about the value of kindness and self-sacrifice, sharing, moral intent, charity, pursuit of happiness. None of us like capitalism, except the few that manage to be the real capitalisers.

Communism is the inward desire of every human with the emotional faculty to see the utter incomprehensible destitution that exploitative economic policy creates all over the world.

As for your shite about Stalin and the Kims:

Stalinism was not communism: power was held solely and centrally in a singular figure. The DPRK's Juche philosophy is not communism: fat man gets everything, people get nothing. Venezuelan rule-by-decree is not socialism: power is held centrally in a single figure. Chinese state-capitalism is not communism: wage slavery and single-party rule (hint: the opposite of COMMUNAL rule).

Socialism and communism demand rule from the bottom up, not from the top down. I wonder often if any of you right wing pish-for-brains actually read the literature pertaining to the concepts you seem to despise.

It's like a bunch of hillbilly inbreds getting together to form an opinion against climate change, during the hottest, driest summer on human record, drought-ridden and covered in their own stinking sweat. And not one of them has read a single piece of the science they're trying to oppose.

Pick up a fucking book, man.

Side: communism

Reminds me of the Civil War in America.

But whatever, I'm for Minarchism. A government with too much control is an unnecessary institution.

Side: capitalism
Mint_tea(4641) Clarified
1 point

Where do you believe the control a government has should start and stop? I'm simply curious, if you don't mind me asking.

Side: communism

Sure.

The government should ensure free market by making companies accountable, and the rule of law. It interfering with the market by joining in is an unnecessary affair.

It goes similar for other things (because almost everything follows a similar mechanism) - anything that is unnecessary to the government shouldn't be under their power.

So, it should just ensure some minimum ideals to keep the market free and state lawful.

Side: capitalism