That had little to do with the debate. This is why she banned me:

"A dead horse? You don't know what you're talking about. You refuse to give any further examples to how "temporary heaven" isn't just HEAVEN... let alone, if the Bible even mentions it. The links you provide are forum posts, by people who don't seem to be very qualified in the matter. I was at the top percentage of my college class in religious studies. It is a topic that I studied very intently. I took that study even further outside of college. I don't know everything, but I certainly know more than you. So before you go off trying to say I'm beating a dead horse, maybe you should look at the big picture.

There is Biblical evidence that suggests that after Jesus died, deceased Christian's were then able to ascend to Heaven... never BEFORE his death were they able to. So that cancels out all of your examples from the other debate. If this post-Jesus heaven is what you refer to as "temporary heaven" then I'll let it go... but even that is up for interpretation."

In retrospect, pointing out my college history was a little unnecessary.

Okay... do you think I give a shit?

This was my argument in response to her Lazarus comments (she never responded):

John 11:11-14 “These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep. Then said his disciples, Lord, if he sleep, he shall do well. Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in sleep. Then said Jesus unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead”.

Psalms 146:4 “His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish”.

Job 14:12 “So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep”.

Lazarus died. He did not speak of Heaven after he was brought back to life by Jesus, nor did anyone ask him about it.

Job 7:21 “And why dost thou not pardon my transgression, and take away mine iniquity? for now shall I sleep in the dust; and thou shalt seek me in the morning, but I shall not be”.

It is made very clear in the Bible that none shall enter heaven until judgement day.

1 Thessalonians 4:16 “For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first”