Stand your ground is entirely concerning civil interaction. It relates to law enforcement only insofar as it helps determines the criminality of a given case. It's a legal standard, not a law enforcement standard. Also it has not a god damned thing to do with race.

Did you see it this way in 2018 ?

It really is something how a shift in one single fundamental premise leads to such divergent views on all off the major issues. I just couldn't disagree with you more.

We still occupy Japan. .

The fact that you see the battle lines drawn thusly says more about the punch you drank than anything else.

I talked to a girl with the "wrong" color skin for me in a bar. Or rather, I had the wrong skin color for her according to people other than her. I was called a racial slur, my life was threatened, and I was told to leave. Fucking waa.

This whole thread started with your list of ways to behave at s traffic stop. It's a good list and every one should follow it. Not everyone does. But you think this is about me, someone you know nothing about; because your pot fried brain got distracted. That's your problem, not mine. It makes you believe you know what it's like to be black at a traffic stop.

Empathy with what you imagine a situation is like is not the same as experiencing the situation. I have experience with police interactions and I'm familiar with the data on the matter. The vast majority of black traffic stops are the same as white traffic stops. The main difference is that if a white person encounters a prick of a cop they likely suspect the cop is a prick, but if a black person encounters a prick of a cop, they are likely to suspect a racist cop, even if the cop is black.

Studies have found that right wingers are better at guessing what the left winger position is on a given subject than left wingers are of the right. Put another way, right wingers are better at putting themselves in lefty shoes.

As for the list, I didn't know it came from BLM and I don't object to anything on it. I think everyone needs to be told how to interact with police and it should be explained why cops respond to certain behaviors the way they do. That way the public can put themselves in the cops shoes.

Do you know what it's like to be black at a traffic stop?

And yes, a lot of snitches intend to snitch. They contact police just for that purpose. Criminals are not honorable.

Legitimate law enforcement cannot be successful without public assistance. If the cops are at my door asking questions about something I've witnessed that isnt drug related, such as my neighbor assaulting someone or stealing something, that a bit different than asking if an odor of marijuana ever drifts over.

It would be despicable for you to protect your neighbor and enable them to further victimize people.

"Yeah, I heard some girl screaming no and stop, but I'm not telling the cops shit". If that's you, you are creating more victims. Disgusting.