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Hrchung(23) Clarified
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Hey there, was away for quite a long time. Hm, okay. But first of all, would you believe me if I told you? I think not. If you insist, I shall. So I have once seen an old man walk who sat on a wheel chair for more than a year; oh and (this is really weird) a woman's lost tooth grow to a gold tooth. No kidding.

So are you going to accuse me of false testifying or hallucination, then you shouldn't have asked if you were going to. Hm...maybe I shouldn't have stated that, more useless disputing. Ugh sorry. Anything else I should clarify or dispute about?

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Sorry, for misunderstanding your first point. (Right Galileo;;..) For the Pope during that century, he had a role of politics also people stilled believed that bible is an absolute book, like all-in-one textbook; while the bible said nothing about the Earth being round or not or the Sun being center of the earth. Those were all presumption of the people. Still anyone would understand that the time they were in was a time when discoveries had to match the biblical texts.

We are arguing the bible is true or not because, the topic is what we are suppose to argue about.

It's not plagiarism. The bible is translated from the original scriptures. It's like a famous book copied officially (of course photocopied) for many people too read, no duh. If published copies are plagiarism, then the books on the shelves in your house are all plagiarized.

I just correcting you that Jesus is real in this earth not just a myth in a book, nothing more, and you stated first. We can argue in another place about Jesus is real or not, if YOU want.

People don't always want religion to be real. Because people see or feel, they know it's real so they follow.

Of course the book is real. It's written thousands of years before, then it's a historical reference. (Noah's ark is real, there are even documentaries for that, very interesting!--I just wanted to tell you that, it's pretty cool.) The Torah is literally some part of the Old Testament in the bible, if you didn't know that. (P.S. Not that I'm saying the Torah was copied from the bible)

Millions of people witnessed it as they are included in the book as well, Torah or bible.

It's wrong to impose one's belief to another. I even agree with that because to believe it is your choice. Not everyone is like that, we try to (should be) persuade that what we believe is right. It's not like "if you don't believe it, you will be cursed" (if anyone does that they are STUPID, because it's NOT true). I think fighting over who's right/wrong is not wrong, bringing more solid credibility, giving more ideas to research about. If it takes to physical violence, then that's a whole different level we are talking about, more like religious intolerance.

It's so hard to except that God is a made-up and all those spiritual things are fake because we've, I HAVE, seen and felt things that are not in this worldly dimension. I'm not very radical, I should be. Calling me a Jesus-Freak will be giving me too much credit but it would be an honor.

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Of course, no duh, everyone needs to be punished for what they did wrong. However, that was before the death of Christ. After Christ died, He told us to forgive each other, like He forgave our sins. The nine "fruits" you are talking about are the characteristics we are suppose to have, and, yes, God is like that too. He is jealous and vengeful because His children are not looking at Him and are being influenced by "evil", when He is the real one who gave what we have, whether you believe it or not.

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Woah, what do you mean "this is the way a Christian meant to behave" and hypocrisy? Well, there are stupid people trying enforce something they believe to you. We try be (should be) more like "introducing a new dish" But it's your decision to taste it, right?

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Heh, i don't think there is a place named Bethanu, but there is a place called Bethany, meaning house of misery/poverty.

Claim: Horus was baptized in a river at the age of 30, and his baptizer was later beheaded.

Truth: Horus was never baptized. While the conspiracy theorists will often point to “Anup the Baptizer” and claim he was later beheaded, there is no such person in Horus’ story.

Claim: Horus had 12 disciples

Truth: Horus had only four disciples (called ‘Heru-Shemsu’), but at some point in his story there is reference to sixteen followers, and a group of unnumbered followers who join Horus in battle (called ‘mesnui’). But there’s no reference to twelve followers.

Claim: Horus performed miracles, exorcized demons, raised someone from the dead, walked on water

Truth: Of course Horus performed miracles, after all he was supposed to be a god!! But there was no mention of exorcizing demons, raising people from the dead or walking on water.

Claim: Horus delivered a “Sermon on the Mount”, and his followers recounted his sayings. He was transfigured on the Mount

Truth: Horus never delivered a “Sermon on the Mount”, nor was he transfigured.

Claim: Horus was crucified between two thieves, buried for three days in a tomb, and was resurrected

Truth: Horus is not reported to have died at all in the vast majority of story versions. There is also no crucifixion story. Instead, Horus is usually described as eventually merging with Ra (the Sun god) after which he ‘dies’ and is ‘reborn’ every single day as the sun rises. (This is a bit of a stretch at a death and resurrection parallel). Now there is an unofficial story that describes Horus as dying and being cast in pieces into the water, and later fished out by a crocodile at Isis’ request.

Blah blah. Yup that's it...

If you want more...tell me.

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Right.

Based on what can you tell the people the sun revolves around the world and they'll believe it?

They don't justify their wrongs but admit they are wrong and sinful.

Jesus existed, whether you believe He resurrected or not, or He is Son of God. All religious leaders know that, even the prophet Muhammad.

Christianity came from the Jewish history, there is nothing wrong with that. We didn't say we are automatically right, that's why we are trying to prove it to you that it's right, right? If we think we are automatically right, we wouldn't waste time writing this argument.

We did not say our "story" is better, we're just trying to prove that it's true.

How do we have morals to do the "right things"?

Hrchung(23) Clarified
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GuitarGuy and Dermot, are you guys adults (well, Dermot you did say you are)? You guys should be comedians. It's hilarious. Oh sorry, ignore my comment. Please continue! XD

Hrchung(23) Clarified
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Nice, good point. Possibilities. Thanks man, that IS a good stuff to actually research about. :)

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Haha, wrong information! Whether, we believe it's fake or not, being copied million times over and over doesn't mean it's fake. Historians, believers or not, all say 99% of the bible is copied exactly the same. Dude, they even have some of the original scriptures. I'm just saying, think of the possibility ;).

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Hello, the creation is not man-made, God created it. Not that it seem to matter. Lol and, yes, "His greatness" can't be described but we try. XD

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