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I'd generally agree with your conclusions, provided the premises you've gathered. But I'm questioning the premise of the power of the individual. What if this mass conformity is a recent development of say, the last 100 years or so? That would cover your examples of past disasters, but also covers the advance of socialism and other related collectivist ideologies.

The explosion of industrialisation, free markets, and for example the founding of the US are all hyper-individualist movements following the enlightenment that appear to be responsible as you note for lifting humanity out of the dark ages, but also needed enough popular support to overthrow their establishments of the time, so where did that support come from? Is it possible that the people during this period were independant liberal thinkers, or where they merely conforming to a new liberal ideology?

Our schools likely don't help in this regard either, kids sit in rows all doing the same thing, asking permission for all interactions. Most schools foster behaviour inclined towards collectivism, and many great inventors and businessmen specifically note particular dislike of schools, often dropping out completely. Is entrepreneurial living a skill we've lost or been subverted away from? Or was humanity always doomed to be sheep?

Also, I'd imagine nobody expects themselves to be a mindless unit of the herd even today (aside from the PoMos that literally believe that), so how can a herd exist nonetheless?

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Dependence. To separate MSM and progressives from Trump is to separate Christians from God. Wherefrom will they get their morality without their anti-compass? What windmills will there be to slay? What outlet for their consuming hatred?

Until a substitute drug is found, these poor people will still be jittering about the cheeto fascist for years to come.

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Your calls to tolerate Islam are what have led to Islam exerting its influence to repress tolerance itself. Why would you be intolerant in the name of tolerance? If you are to be intolerant either way, why fall in favour of Islam in your intolerance? Especially in response to barbarism such as beheadings in response to blasphemy, or the Bataclan theatre in France.

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Both your claims are factually accurate.

I think per capita is sometimes misleading. A more useful metric would be fatalities per police encounter, and relating them by severity. This helps weed out other discrepancies such as black people committing more crime and the severity of crime.

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Dunno really. On one hand the West is decelerating while China is accelerating, so maybe the west will be the next eastern Europe.

On the other hand, if we keep Africans countries dependent on handouts they'll never actually develop themselves. Their local businesses can't compete with free.

Nomoturtle(856) Clarified
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I don't think you read what I said, I basically just paraphrased Sowell.

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Ah yes, good old regulation. Squashing the little guy since time immemorial. Starts with the public attempting to suppress businesses, then as the public goes to sleep the businesses swing the very same regulation to be used to suppress new competition.

Nomoturtle(856) Clarified
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Since you didn't answer the question, I guess that's a no?

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It certainly is a political weapon. People go to companies and accuse them of racism, then offer themselves a job to fix the racism. Now there are 50-100k dollar positions with titles like "Diversity manager". It's literally someone who's job it is to discriminate based on race, sex, gender, and whatever else to fulfill arbitrary quotas. They also preferentially hire a bunch of critical theorists like themselves and minimise diversity of thought.

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Because mask policy is distinctly political in that it is performative. It literally is 'my god didn't say so'. Because even judging by their merits alone, studies on masks are inconclusive on their effects, many supportive, many discrediting. Same for lockdowns.

These policies are based on what people believe to be true from here-say and surface-level plausibility, without considering things like the size of a virus particle relative to woven fabric, or how many particles it takes to infect someone. I wouldn't blame anyone for believing they work as prescribed, but prior studies and the data from this pandemic suggest otherwise. Our mental models of viral mechanisms is demonstrably insufficient.

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