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This is true. Since this issue is so recent, I don't think we have any long-term studies about the effects of gay adoption, but maybe we'll have a better understanding in 10 or 20 years. However, I feel that during arguments it is better to argue from a logical standpoint, as opposed to an emotional one. Still, I agree with your stance.

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I do not think we should label 'religion' as nonsense. Having a moral code is a valuable part of human life, whether or not we define it as religion. But I don't want to change the argument: yes, I agree, just because a religious doctrine may discourage homosexuality, does not mean we must apply that doctrine to a secular government.

But please, feel free to add to this argument/write against it. I am encouraging more debate!

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Though I agree with your position, I feel like more questions need to be asked. For instance, how old are these studies? Are they still going on?

Though I am for gay adoption, I do not think the answer is so obvious. It is stirring so much debate because gay adoption is going against the previous traditional values of American society, and any shift from one set of morals to another is bound to bring up some questions.

So, yet again, I implore others who are against gay adoption to post and give their point-of-view. I would like to keep this debate as level as possible.

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This is actually a very prevalent issue. Gay adoption is still a widely debated subject. There are a few organizations trying to dismantle gay adoption (Here is an article from 2006...I'm sorry it's a bit old, but I feel like it still has weight to it: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-02-20-gay-adoption_x.htm) )

Also, you stated: "...I'm not saying they should adopt, but that they can, and it doesn't make much of a difference." Explain your reasoning. Why wouldn't it make much of a difference? Personally I am pro-adoption, but I feel that hearing out details would be more beneficial than stating simple claims.

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For what reason? From what I understand, 'marriage' is a social construct. 'Marriage' has not held the same definition since its creation, and it is also different across cultures. In some cultures, men can have four wives. In other cultures, men can have a wife and a girlfriend. And look at this country: until only just recently (the past 50 years or so), it was completely acceptable for husbands to beat their wives. It was a "personal" issue, not domestic violence.

I suggest reading this article on how traditional marriage has changed over time:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/260456_marriage.html

What I'm trying to get at is: of course homosexual marriages are unnatural. ALL marriages are unnatural. They are constructs of society. And if the society sees it fit, it can change the rules.

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You bring up a very interesting point DaWolfman. Would gay adoption be unfair for the child? From my point-of-view, I would say no. If the parents were loving and caring, and the child was raised in a good household, then I would imagine it would be more of a benefit than a hindrance. As for the bullies on the playground picking on the kid, it is unfair but it happens. Children are picked on for a plethora of reasons: for their intelligence, hair, freckles, deformities, you name it. But I don't think that means they should compromise to fit the social norm (especially the social norm of a playground bully, whatever age that may be).

But I do think you raised an interesting point. It would be intriguing to hear from a child who is raised by gay parents, or from an adult who was raised by gay parents. I think that would provide more of a psychological insight. They'd be a first-hand source.

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I agree with HGrey's point here about the subjectivity of gender. I do not think there are specific things that can be "taught" through ONLY one gender. However, I do think having a parent of that gender helps; a daughter would want to talk to her mother about her period, if given the choice. But fathers can definitely talk about it as well (even though it might be a bit uncomfortable).

To quickly state my piece:

Yes, I believe gay parents should be able to adopt. I do not think a child needs a mother and father to get a healthy perspective on things. I found an old article about this issue a while ago:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/26/us/26florida.html

It was about the Florida ban on gay adoption that was ruled unconstitutional (but you can see that from the title).

I even found an older article about a "new take" on the American family: http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/06/25/gay.adoption/index.html

By doing a quick google search, you can see that it is not on the forefront of the political crossfire as gay marriage is, but it is a important issue. I think one of the main reasons it makes people so uncomfortable is that everyone feels like they know how to rear children the best, whether it is with homosexual parents, hetoersexual parents, single parents, or whatever. It is a touchy issue for most people, since everyone has to listen to their mother-in-laws bicker once and a while.

I'm interested to hear more from the anti-gay adoption side. This debate is open to all.


Winning Position: Yes, gays should adopt

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