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Indeed; arguing on purely logical grounds as well, why would God select some to be assumed to heaven and leave others behind when (assuming the rapture to be physical), transporting all humankind there would serve as definitive, absolute proof of God's existence; isn't the selective nature of the rapture a kind of penalty for disbelief in the first place?
There are the widely-known phenomena of out-of-body and near-death experiences, both of which long having been shown to be biochemical in origin, thereby mitigating against the then-apparent evidentiary strength of religious experiences for theism. In other words, how will anyone claiming to be raptured know that it isn't all in their heads?
It's right there in the OT. In Isaiah 45:7 God says, ''I form the light, and create the darkness,
I make weal and create woe;*
I, the LORD, do all these things''.
Footnote to this verse in the New American Bible:
Create woe: God created and controls all aspects of creation (light and darkness, order and chaos).
Yes, all EXISTING religions have ethics common to each other. But it's become a kind of polite fiction to say that this is all that matters; this clearly isn't the case in the eyes of their adherents. To them, each religion's distinctive rituals, rules and gods (depending on the faith to which one subscribes) are equal in import to its' moral teachings, and in most cases, each owes its' very being to the belief that the other is wrong, whereas it and ONLY it possesses the full truth concerning reality and our place within it. It would be naive to deny this.
Of course it is; no one's arguing otherwise. That said, what the atheist using this antitheistic line of reasoning means is that there are many religious doctrines whose logical implications lead their adherents to behave in questionable ways. For example, the belief that theism or Christianity is the exclusive source of morality commonly leads theists to distrust/hate nontheists, religious anti-abortionists are known to bomb abortion clinics, etc.
I've noticed that responses like the above from theists always allow them never to concede the presence of flaws in their texts or doctrines, which makes me wonder whether the believer is playing an intentional game with the nontheist/skeptic, or whether their faith has brainwashed them to such an extent that they are genuinely incapable of seeing them. Either way, there's a problem.
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