"Without God there is no morality. Simple as that. No objective morality. Other than what society dictates, but then we get to that gut feeling. We know murder is wrong, but we can't go on feelings. For hundreds of years faggots were wrong. Evolutionary speaking they are not contributing to the gene pool. So that throws the majority argument out the window. If every person on this planet was a homo our species would succumb. If every person on this planet was a murderer our species would die out also. Alas, homos are A-Okay. Now, you say, but homos aren't harming anyone. Harming? What is harming? Why is it wrong to pain someone. Life is just a bunch of molecules. We are just stardust oozing. Why not kill and have fun? Are you really just listening to what society says like they have done with the gays in the past. You live. You die. It does not even matter if our species die out, because life is one big accident. So murder is not wrong. If you can teach your kids that and form a society where males challenge each other to the death for a female. Your species will still survive. I bet Nazi Germany thought killing Jews was okay. If no one intervened it would be okay."

I posing my best argument for if I were an atheist.

He does not need it. In fact you don't have to. Well I have sung praises to men with faults... then surely a perfect God ought to be praised. The fact that He let's himself be praised by wicked men... Is a mystery. God can't go against his character and therefore can't stand sin. That is the reason for hell. Holy wrath. (According to Christianity) I have nothing against a perfect God bragging if he can back it up.

You told me you were a Christian. See now I see where you are coming from... the Christian Left (oxymoron).

I am tired of the gays pushing their agenda. They need to stop. Their movements only angers conservatives. I like the way the Russians respond to their parades.

''You do that. Keep living in your delusion and ill enjoy my life without having to pay "respects" to a cosmic ju-ju in the sky and instead devote that energy to maintaining the world and spreading science, knowledge, and truth to all humanity.''

There is the god hater I wanted to see. Oh and I do get good grades in physics and chemistry but do not consider evolution a science. Go! spread your religion god hater. You are a fallacy man. No matter what enormous complexity we face... we just have to make up a good story of how it evolved. Spreading evolution is lying so, why on earth would I do that? Infinite time does not cancel out the law of large numbers. If all the people on the earth had to toss a coin a hundred times, none of them would get heads each time. (I know you hate this argument, I use it to show that the chances are slim.) Then you'll say, my non friend, there are milliooooons of possibilities... bla bla bla. I mean what are the chances of evolving in a world we see today. Goodbye god hater. I know you guys arent objective but I am not lying when I say that I have read about all the theories you so love. Now do yourself a favor and be a little bit objective... it won't kill you. I know I am not smart, but a complete imbecile can see that evolution is the biggest fraud ever driven by lies upon lies.

''You do that. Keep living in your delusion and ill enjoy my life without having to pay "respects" to a cosmic ju-ju in the sky and instead devote that energy to maintaining the world and spreading science, knowledge, and truth to all humanity.''

There is the god hater I wanted to see. Oh and I do get good grades in physics and chemistry but do not consider evolution a science. Go spread your religion god hater. You are a fallacy man. No matter what enormous complexity we face... we just have to make up a good story of how it evolved. Spreading evolution is lying so, why on earth would I do that? Infinite time does not cancel out the law of large numbers. If all the people on the earth had to toss a coin a hundred times, none of them would get heads each time. (I know you hate this argument, I use it to show that the chances are slim.) Then you'll say, my non friend, there are milliooooons of possibilities... bla bla bla. I mean what are the chances of evolving in a world we see today. Goodbye god hater. I know you guys arent objective but I am not lying when I say that I have read about all the theories you so love. Now do yourself a favor and be a little bit objective... it won't kill you. I know I am not smart, but a complete imbecile can see that evolution is the biggest fraud ever driven by lies upon lies.

Exactly. I could not agree more. That is called cessationism. You must change your argument. When I say after the apostles I am talking about a time after the apostles the gifts faded away. You are on the wrong team.

Okay then. Since you are so brilliant. Can you disprove that God exists. I mean there must be some way to disprove it. If you can't, you have to admit a bias. I will gladly admit mine but I once considered evolution and now find it absolutely silly. There are more scientific things going on in art classes than classes about evolution and I love science. Why can't a God create simpler versions of things? Why aren't there any living transitional forms. Why did they all die out? Why do some nectar attract insects... was it dumb luck? The sticky pollen coincidentally has a use. The seeds coincidentally evolved wings. I love this cool coincidences. I love the way the mammal's heart and lungs evolved simultaneously and blood vessels and macrophages and the nervous system just correctly at the right places. There must have been millions of failures though but somehow it worked out despite the law of large numbers. This is assume. If I ever had this luck Id go to Vegas immediately. Considering that we would die quickly without a lymph system it must have evolved quickly coincidentally. Maybe nature had some good luck one day. Some very good luck. You see random chance. I see an engineering masterpiece ruined by man. It is all a matter of perception. How did it work out so well?Yes there are errors but this will be expected with the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics. What are the chances of a fully functioning eye evolving? How did the flagellum evolve? Can you explain to me how a virus evolved considering that it doesn't really live. Why do some butterflies have mimicry on their wings that are very specific to animals that live near them? You can't deny that it does seem logical to believe in a creator whether he abandoned us or not. I have hope and you do not. So yeah I am gonna enjoy my life but pay my due respects to the one who made it.

Hey, we have been arguing over the past few days but I agree with you. Christianity is plagued by millions of fakers. True Christians are a rare species.

Well, firstly you must define worst because that can vary and secondly Christianity is plagued by millions of fakers. If you want to see true Christians you got to read the book they love but seeing as you are biased against them, you probably wouldn't dare go near a Bible... cause Jesus was a tyrant, wasn't he. And man is the Best. Unfortunately, I do not agree with you but thanks to you, I stand firmer in my belief as a Christian.