Good day to everyone on both sides of this debate. I will do my best to keep this short as possible.

After reviewing comments from both sides, I have come to the conclusion that "We have to take responsibility for ourselves." Remember that we are a short time on this planet. No, it was not possible to come here on our own, but we surly do not require no assistance to leave here. Agreed?

So many of us are making decisions based on an automatic response to past stimuli - we are not consciously aware of our intent, nor are we matching the intent with our gut instinct. If you have a gut instinct to not do something, do not go somewhere, then you don't do it -- and honor it -- and honor your Self.

Now as you can see, I have chosen the side that MAN CREATED GOD, nevertheless I believe in an UNKNOWABLE, UNTHINKABLE, INCOMPREHENSIBLE (TERRIBLE POWER), that no THING could live in IT'S presence, less known to begin to phantom or understand it. Man has created God(s), but what created man is not hard at all to discover if you only apply yourself and get your nose into some good books. You will begin to discover who this supposed God really is. It's not that hard to find out, but if you don't know, I cannot tell you. You got to find this out for yourself!

Furthermore, to even speak about it or express these words in one way or the other brings a physical life in danger. Did you see the movie, "Lord of the Rings", when the hobbit put on the ring, the evil eye could see the hobbit? Well it's something like that and none of us should play around with religious ideas without guides or assistance. It is more dangerous then you know and something beyond our grasp...it's dangerous, including the people who deal with religions! I can't go into the details as to why but take this one from me. (research Archons)

Therefore, it is logical that we cannot really speak about "IT", because our brains do not have the capability to grasp nor understand "IT". The bible itself calls this blasphemy and demands that no one should compare nothing in this life to "IT", which simply IS(NESS).

NONE OF US KNOW! Period. Only at this point of recognition does one place their self in a position to perhaps approach more understanding. Total understanding will never occur in this lifetime. Please face this fact and come to terms with it. DEAL WITH THIS FACT, THAT YOU WILL NEVER KNOW IN THIS LIFETIME!

Now, this destroys the working faith of believers simply because they have not taken responsibility for their selves, nor their individual personal understanding and belief. Any faith or religion which claims that it is the ultimate truth is from it's very basic false and absurd! I say again, the first sign of a false belief is that it claims to be the only way. You must "think" about this and don't allow yourself to be further deceived or live your life out in a lie.

It's not so much as to what we believe but more so as to why we believe it. Can you relate to that statement? Only a intelligent mind and open heart that possess the responsible freedom of self determination to be truly self-confident and free to unconditionally be responsible for one's self, without be coerced to accept some higher authority. What we are looking for, we already are! Now just do greater things and be a better person, without the mind games and attachments. Got it?

As far as wanting to be saved, I know it's a real touchy subject. If you want to be saved, that's fine. But, between now and the time you do get saved, be responsible for yourself, and teach people and children around you to be responsible for themselves. Passing a belief or religion on to anyone enslaves that person, and in most cases for the rest of their life. This is not doing anyone a justice, rather staggering their personal and individual growth.

We are supposed to become a race of leaders - not a race of sheep. We are supposed to be chiefs and nobody should fall behind or be better then the next person. We are all evolving together, one planet, one people and one love.

In closing, I would like to "Thank- You" for reading my comment on this debate and hope that many of you see what I have to say as a profound message. Please don't ignore each other. We are awesome. Every one of you is awesome. Don't buy into what you have been told (in cultural social reality). It is a lie. You are awesome. But as far as religions and "savior scenario's" is concerned, it has been put into our belief systems to dis-empower us. So free your mind of ghost, dogmas and games which get us nowhere. May you all have a productive and prosperous‎ New Year with good intentions in 2014. {TheOneWhoIs}