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Well actually neither came the first, it was an ancestor species. But if as long as the question is written in this manner I'd say the Egg, because before having an actual chicken we had another species which was not entirely chicken, by means of evolution, Genetic mutation the egg that the not entirely chicken laid, was not like the other eggs, it was mutated and by means of natural selection the chicken survived

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Sure, I am sorry I did not reply earlier, I was really busy and didn't have time to visit this website.

Well, first of all The Bible has all the characteristics of an epic fantasy novel. It says that it the things happen on the Earth however there are too many logical inconsistencies there. Such as the earth is less than 10000 years old, Noah's story, the story of great flood and many many others. Too many imaginary beings like Angels, which can be compared to characters of other novels like J.R.R Tolkien's Sillmarilion, the Valar. The Satan would be Melkor, Raphael would be Yavanna, and God would be Eru Illuvatar. I do not believe that the Bible is true, or the God that it describes actually exists because there is no single shred of evidence that God exists, The bible is full of nonsense, false data, fallacies like circular reasoning.

Why it is interesting? well it's just my opinion i found the stories exiting

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Bible is not a base! it can't be considered one. THe same way as "A song of ice and fire" can't.

Secular humanists do not say don't do it otherwise you are a jerk. They say look if you do thins this and that consequences may appear for instance if you kiss a snake it is most probable that it will bite you. Or don't hurt others feelings, because they will cry and you will make them feel bad, Would you want to feel bad? No, of course no then why make others feel bad? Secular humanists GIVE REASONS why children should behave in some way. and it is not often that children actually listen and experience everything by themselves and come to a conclusion. While saying do do this because the bible says so is plain STUPID

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NO, teaching religion to kids is not brainwashing. When the kid goes to International Religions class and start learning about Christianity, Islam, buddhism, monotheism, Olympic gods it's not brainwashing I myself am an Atheist and I know a lot about the world religions i haven't been brainwashed in any way. But those kids who have to start learning those religions have to just LEARN them see all the alternatives differences, approach the question critically, with critical thinking and have to have their own formed personality. THough saying that jesus and his daddy are GOD they created you and if you don't do what he wants you're gonna get tortured. In other words MAKING WITH FORCE the child to believe in this or that God IS Brainwashing. While simply teaching them about those things is not

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Please Please Satan is way cooler. I mean of all Angels he was the only one with the balls to say, Hey God what you created is a piece of shit look you freak, they're killing each other, wars, disease, arrogance, ignorance dude they're pathetic. and He accepts people as they are he even cares for us making us to admit our sins and regret them. He killed less people than God. plus He looks Cooler. naaah Satan FTW God sucks Satan rules

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you kidding me? "a man named jesus lived at this time. (undisputed fact)" this is the silliest thing i ever read people even dispute the Holocaust and the Armenian Genocide which happened a couple of decades ago. nothing in history can be undisputed.

"bible mentions jews" hmpf there were jews already when the bible was written. (many times)

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Well, the bible is an Epic fantasy novel. nothing more, so it;s okay that there is violence in it. (please please don't write that it is your holy book, and you are offended and bible is a source of facts etc. it's just a book, quite interesting fantasy novel. a long with Qu'ran and other holy books

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> Also when you have non-living matter already, the life does not spontaneously spring from it.

Actually it does. but not spontaneously. We have now a lot of forms of organisms that are both plants and animals take Euglena it has no consciousness it does photosynthesis and has a lot of properties that all plants have) Yet it has something that the plants do not have some kind of foot with what it moves to light (no plant ever moves, meaning displacement). The euglena has no brain it doesn't think, it acts merely on reflexes. Yet it is both a plant and an animal which means that life came from non-living material. and after that we have evolution to describe how the organisms evolved.

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>therefore, somebody else more powerful than man had to have created them;

No some things evolve they come from simple things two simple things combine creating another a more complex thing without any one's interference. Imagine a two stick balls on an inclined plane, the one that is in the upper part will roll down (because of the gravity) and stick to the other one. (assuming the other one is in the end of the inclined plane). They combine creating something more complex than just a sticky ball. As you can see there was no interference here. The creation of everything in universe is not that different. You may ask but why is there gravity? because there is the matter, creating a gravitational field is one of that particle's properties as long as the particle is there the property will also exist. As you can see the argument that we aren't smart enough to create it therefore there was someone else who created it is not valid, it could have created itself without ANY interference form a human or the hypothetical God.

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Of course. Just because the universe is very vast and beautiful does not imply that it was created by a God. Though I can see the temptation to think that it is because it actually is quite astounding and we have not figured out a lot of mysteries. Nobody knows how the all matter came to being or was it always there or no. What we know is how stars are being created even now when I am typing this question we even know how our planet was created. The laws of physics always were there when there was matter/Energy in the universe because laws are being created by the property of a particle if a particle exists it's property also exists therefore the laws of interactions between the particles exist. We know that the universe can evolve completely God-free. There is no reason to think there is a God, any God. And there are a lot of reasons to think that there is no God. The vastness and the beauty of the world actually is an argument against God. Why would God create such a vast universe if we are his only creations? It is quite silly to think that humans were always like they are now, it is obvious that we evolved are evolving still

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