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The analogy does not follow as police officers, unlike fruit, have free will. The argument does not stand.

In fact, individuals such as Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. spread the "good" in society.

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If you believe God does not exist, please consider the following quote:

”Supposing there was no intelligence behind the universe, no creative mind. In that case, nobody designed my brain for the purpose of thinking. It is merely that when the atoms inside my skull happen, for physical or chemical reasons, to arrange themselves in a certain way, this gives me, as a by-product, the sensation I call thought. But, if so, how can I trust my own thinking to be true? It’s like upsetting a milk jug and hoping that the way it splashes itself will give you a map of London. But if I can’t trust my own thinking, of course I can’t trust the arguments leading to Atheism, and therefore have no reason to be an Atheist, or anything else. Unless I believe in God, I cannot believe in thought: so I can never use thought to disbelieve in God.”

- C.S Lewis, "The Case for Christianity"

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Consider the following argument:

A- In order for something to be theft, you must not give consent for it to be taken away.

B- As an American citizen, you consent to the Constitution.

C- Taxation is a power given to Congress in the Constitution.

D- Therefore, taxation is not theft

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God is necessary for objective morality. Objective morality, by definition, is not subjective. Therefore, it cannot originate in the individual. It cannot originate in a collection of individuals. It is not instinct, because objective morality is what emphasizes our instincts over another.

For example, if a man is about to fall of a cliff, and you are afraid of heights, you will have the "fight or flight" instinct. Either you "fight", by facing your fear and rescuing the man, or you will choose "flight" and do nothing/run away. Objective morality results in your "fight" instinct to win, even though in a materialistic universe there is only one mode of life: survival/self-preservation.

Therefore, objective morality is not an instinct, but rather emphasizes one instinct over another. Therefore, it must be beyond our natural selves and be, by definition, supernatural. There must be a supernatural "lawgiver" who lays down the objective moral laws which guide our choices.

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This depends on multiple factors.

First, what choices did the drowning person make? Are they choosing to drown? Did they ignore the warnings and advice of others? If so, they are ultimately responsible.

If this is not the case, then if you refuse to help, it is very difficult to justify your refusal. If you can't swim, grab something they can hold onto or call for someone else to help. If you can, dive in and help.

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How do we define "art"? This is a question which has been asked for a long time. While I do not agree with the political philosophy of the gentlemen who said this, I agree with the quote:

"Art for art's sake is an empty phrase. Art for the sake of the good, art for the sake of the true and the beautiful, that is the faith I am searching for."

Art, I believe, is to measure and reflect the nature of beauty and goodness. Therefore, if measuring and reflecting the nature of beauty and goodness is important or useful, then yes art is useful.

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The top five Presidents in my opinion are the following:

1- George Washington

2- Abraham Lincoln

3- Ronald Reagan

4- Theodore Roosevelt

5- Franklin Roosevelt

George is first because, like the old saying goes, "It's one thing to make a new wheel, its another to invent the wheel." George did a superb job of keeping the US out of foreign wars, and used his integrity and discernment to avoid exercising overt executive authority, which is exactly what the nation needed. He was still tough, stopping the Whiskey Rebellion as an example. Overall, a hero in the Revolution and a fine statesman. Even King George III called him "The greatest man alive."

Abraham Lincoln is next because he freed the slaves, and for leading the country through arguably the worst days in its history. How Lincoln managed to keep the nation together is beyond me, and I doubt many Presidents would have been able to do the same, with the exception of GW, RR and FDR. Lincoln is here because he actually did it.

Ronald Reagan is next because of his contributions to ending the Cold War. Reagan built the best economy America had seen up to that point, and had built us up to the strongest we'd been since WWII. He was a great communicator, and inspired millions in a way few Presidents have been able to do since.

Theodore Roosevelt was the manly classical liberal. Conserve the environment, protect worker's rights, bust the trusts, and defend the Constitution. All in all, Teddy Roosevelt brought the nation to the best point it had been since the end of the Civil War and before WWI.

FDR is an obvious member of this circle, as he pulled the country out of the Great Depression and lead us through the majority of the greatest war in history, all while confined to a wheelchair due to polio. He doesn't go over Teddy because of his attempts to change the rules, (court-packing a prime example), but overall a fine job as President.

What do you think?

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I believe every State as well as the federal government should have the death penalty. Please reference the following article by C.S Lewis demonstrating how the alternative to the death penalty, dubbed the "Humanitarian Theory of Punishment", is in fact worse than the death penalty. (Fun fact, no one wanted to hear his position in England, so it was published in Australia).

Supporting Evidence: C.S Lewis on The Humanitarian Theory of Punishment (classic.austlii.edu.au)
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I clicked "support" because you definitely are on the right track in pointing out where the discussion directs us to. Thank you for seeing the underlying question that shows skill.

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The argument hinges upon whether or not abortion is a right, for if abortion is not a right, then there can be no such thing as an "undue burden". We can take a few different approaches.

Before continuing, we must define abortion. The definition I will use is the following: "Abortion is the intentional termination of the unborn from conception until birth." Now to examine the approaches.

First, consider the following approach: (Approach A)

Argument 1-

I) In order for something to be morally right, it must exist in a perfect world.

II) Abortion does not exist in a perfect world.

III) Therefore, abortion is not morally right.

Argument 2-

I) In order for something to be a right, it must be morally right.

II) Abortion is not morally right.

III) Therefore, abortion is not a right.

Argument 3-

I) In order for it to be possible to have an undue burden on an action or obtaining an object, it must be a right.

II) Abortion is not a right.

III) Therefore, it is not possible to have an undue burden on abortion.

Second, consider the following approach: (Approach B)

Five Fundamental Questions-

1) Are the unborn human?

2) Are the unborn living?

3) What about women's rights?

4) What about special cases?

5) Is there an alternative?

Question 1: Are the unborn human?

Answer: It can be demonstrated the unborn are human in the following ways. First, from a strictly physical/material/empirical perspective, something's nature, the what it is, is determined by what physically composes the subject. The unborn are composed of human DNA, therefore they are human. Second, from a non-physical perspective, we will step into the realm of Potency versus Act. According to St. Thomas Aquinas, "Potency and Act divide being in such a way that whatever is, is either pure act, or of necessity is composed of potency and act as primary intrinsic principles."

Potency is the potential for something to change, develop, etc. Act is the actual state of the thing in question. We all exist as potential and actual beings. We have the potency to change, and we actually exist as we are in this very moment. Of course, this points us to a more fundamental question: what do we actually exist as?

This leads us to our next step in the philosophical approach. All things which exist do so with two different "parts" of their nature; these being essential and accidental. Essential nature determines what something is, where if you were to strip everything else away this particular subject would remain at its core what it is by its essential nature. Accidental nature determines the specific subject in question. For example, all pear trees are essentially pear trees, yet they differ in height, the number of leaves, the sweetness of pears, etc.

Combining the two facets of the philosophical approach, we are left with this: the unborn actually exist as essentially human, with the potential to adopt accidental qualities and have these develop over time. If this were not the case, then a man and woman could be intimate and have a monkey for a child rather than a homo sapiens. It is clear the unborn have essential, intrinsic human nature, otherwise they would be able to develop into anything besides human babies at birth!

In fact, the very fact we are having the debate is clear to us then the unborn are indeed human. The word "unborn" is an adjective, not a noun. There are unborn lions, dogs, pigs, etc. We obviously are not discussing these creatures, rather when I say "abortion" or "unborn", it is clear in our minds we draw up the image of something resembling a human. Thus, we already assume humanity to begin with in the discussion!

Therefore, it is clear to see the answer to Question 1 is "Yes, the unborn are human."

Question 2: Are the unborn living?

Answer: It can be demonstrated the unborn are living in the following ways. First, let us look at the dictionary definition of life, using two separate sources. First, Merriam-Webster defines Life in the following way: "an organismic state characterized by capacity for metabolism, growth, reaction to stimuli, and reproduction". Under this definition, the unborn fit the bill, for they have the capacity for metabolism, they are growing, they react from the moment of conception to different stimuli, and they reproduce on the cellular level. On top of this, if left to actualize their potential, (see Question 1), the unborn will be able to do all of these on a larger and more complex scale. Thus, under the first definition, they are living.

The second definition says "Something is considered 'living' when it is composed of active DNA/RNA". This being the case, the unborn clearly possess active DNA/RNA. Therefore, they are living by this definition as well. From these two definitions we have shown clearly the unborn are living from a physical/material/empirical position. (As an additional note for consideration, here is a third definition which the unborn fit as well: "A new individual is created when the elements of a potent sperm merge with those of a fertile ovum, or egg." Encyclopedia Britannica, 15th Edition, Article on Pregnancy, Chicago, 1974)

It will be easier to address objections to life from the philosophical point of view.

Objection 1: Something is not living if it is dependent on another thing to survive; The unborn are dependent on another to survive; Therefore, the unborn are not living.

Answer: This argument fails because first, it is self defeating. In order for the unborn to be dependent on something to survive, the must already be alive, thus undermining the original premise.

Second, imagine, if you will, conjoined twins. Conjoined twins are dependent on each other, are they not alive? Of course, we would state this is absurd. The twins Dr. Ben Carson separated were individual, unique, living human beings and they were dependent on each other to survive. Thus, to say the unborn are not living because they are dependent on someone else or something else if in an artificial womb is false.

To expand upon this answer, (even if too broadly, perhaps), we are all dependent on someone or something else to sustain us. We are contingent beings, each depending on the choice of our parents to make us, and depending on gravity as well as other universal constants to remain the same. This being the case, to assume we cannot truly be alive until we are completely self-sufficient is to eliminate the right to live for every human being in existence, which again is absurd.

Objection 2: The unborn are not living from conception, but rather from the moment they develop [X].

Answer: Usually, X is replaced with heartbeats, pain, brain waves, etc. However, it is clear the unborn are clearly growing even before developing any of these qualities, otherwise it could not actualize the potential to have these qualities! Also, there are fully grown adults who have neurological disorders which render them incapable of feeling pain. Are they no longer living? Of course they are living! What about when you are on an operating table, and your heart has to be stopped for a transplant or a special surgery? Of course you are still living! It would not be just for the surgeon to harm you or, dare I say, kill you, because you are clearly still living! Therefore, we once again find the objection is absurd.

The answer to Question 2 is an affirmative, "Yes, the unborn are living."

Thus, we have living human beings. Using the original definition, then, we find the abortion is the intentional termination of living human beings. Since they have not committed any crimes, they are also innocent. Therefore, abortion is the intentional termination of innocent living human beings.

Question 3: What about women's rights?

Answer: The dilemma here is the category mistake. Women do not have rights by virtue of being women, but rather by being human. The right to vote, to work, to liberty, equality, etc. are all rooted in this fundamental understanding of women and men being equal. Women and men have the right to their own bodies. Women and men have the right to self-defense, etc because these are human rights. Therefore, the proper way to ask the question is "Does anyone have the right to terminate an innocent living human being?" The argument goes as follows:

A) No one has the right to terminate the life of an innocent human being.

B) Abortion is the termination of the life of an innocent human being.

C) Therefore, no one has the right to an abortion.

The most common objection is rooted in the right to privacy. However, it should be clearly stated and understood that unless you are living, you do not have the right to privacy. While this may seem morbid and sad, take into account a fallen soldier. For the funeral, he is embalmed, dressed, and laid in a casket without giving any consent to go against his privacy. Why? Because he is not alive to do so. Therefore, the right to life is superior for without it, privacy does not follow. It must also be understood that privacy can be violated without the consent of the living as well, this is the definition of a search warrant. Please do not misread what I am saying. I am NOT saying we need to get search warrants on women seeking abortions, for that is absolutely ridiculous. I am saying simply the right to privacy is not an end-all, be-all right.

May we also address the objection about "my body, my choice" in the following manner. Women do have the right to their own body. Certainly she has the right to control the use of her arm by choosing to swing her arm. However, that right stops when her arm approaches the tip of my nose especially if I have not done her any harm.

And finally, we must take into account the most pressing matter of the objection. What about the right of the unborn to their own body? It is a fair question to ask. It must be understood that if life results in privacy, and the unborn are living, then they too have the right to privacy.

Therefore, it is demonstrated that there is no right to an abortion.

(On a special note: the unborn are not parasitic. They have a symbiotic relationship in which they receive nutrients and give stem cells in return to the mother.)

Question 4: What about special cases?

Answer: This is where things become, shall we say, sticky. Most people, after establishing the previous claims, will agree with the idea of "legal, safe and rare." They will attempt to limit abortion with a few exceptions, the "special cases". These cases are usually rape, incest, disability, and emergency medical situations.

We will start with emergency medical situations. Dr. Anthony Levatino performed over 1200, yes, 1200 abortions. However, after stopping abortions and working specifically with emergency pregnancies, he discovered there was never, yes never, any situation in which an abortion was medically necessary. This is coming from a man who has over 40 years of medical experience. See the attached video to hear his explanation.

Next, we will examine disability. Often, this is rooted in "quality of life" arguments. However, it has been demonstrated on numerous occasions that people who are born with disabilities defy the odds time and again. We must always keep in mind doctors can be wrong, and they often are. This is not denial, this is factual reality. Also, it is important to note disability does not change whether we are talking about living human beings. They are, in their nature, still living human beings. If the barrier to their full potential were removed, they would function fully as "normal", because they have the basic inherent capacity to do so.

Incest is an objection for two fundamental reasons. First, incest is usually do to the wicked act of rape, and/or will often lead to disability. We have already addressed disability, so we will move forward to addressing rape, which will then answer the question of incest.

Rape is evil, and horrible. Let me make this clear. I know individuals who have gone through these awful events. And, (not "however" or "but"), and the right to life still remains. The criminal, not the child, is guilty of the evil action. The father should face their punishment, the child should be allowed to live. The child has done nothing wrong. There is a hidden assumption we make by thinking we can "reverse" the action by "forgetting" through abortion. However, no person will ever forget what happened to them. Ever. My friends will never forget. Understand clearly there is no reversing the deed, an abortion only adds another moral dilemma which adds to the vulnerability of the victimized mother. Rather than add to the problem, we need to strengthen the mother, encourage her, and in my own favorite saying, let her know she can "mother like a boss".

We have demonstrated then that there are no special cases to abortion.

Question 5: Is there an alternative?

Answer: Yes, there is an alternative. Foster care, adoption, raising the child yourself, abstinence, all of these options are available. While many object to the idea of foster care or adoption due to the poor management of the system, we must keep in mind we do not know the future, and we, just like doctors, can be wrong. Instead of diverting funding and energy in to providing abortion, something which is morally wrong, we need to divert the funding and energy into foster care and adoption, something which is morally acceptable and preferable to abortion on any given day.

Therefore, using this approach, we have demonstrated the following:

1) The unborn are human.

2) The unborn are living.

3) There is no right to an abortion.

4) There are no exceptions to allow for abortion.

5) There are alternatives which do not allow for the violation or exploitation of human rights, and provide a better option.

Conclusion

Therefore, through Approach A and Approach B, it is clearly demonstrated abortion is not a right, and is not morally good. The final objection one may make is that "you cannot legislate morality". However, this is easily demonstrated as false. All laws are legislating morality, as they say "do this", "don't do that", "you can do this", "you cannot do that". These are moral claims, and therefore since all laws do so, all laws are moral laws. The Constitution of the United States encourages moral laws as well, stating in the Preamble "We the people, in order to form a more perfect Union", and in Article I where is states Congress shall have the power to write "all laws necessary and proper", these are moral terms. Therefore, we can, we must, and we are expected to legislate morality.

It is clear then that it is permissible to legislate restrictions and obstacles to abortion, and there is no such thing as an "undue burden".

Thank you, and I hope this adequately answered your questions.

Dr. Levatino: Is abortion ever medically necessary?
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