"There is no need for an architect " ??? Oh ,you believe everything came out of nothing , and organic-organism-organised came out of "chaotic-nothingness -disorganised .... and the world is just good as it is ... right ? Well , that is evolutionism . However you call it. One evolved out of Zero , and Man evolved out of thin air , and everything came out of nothing... Sounds... Very scientific

Maybe you want to talk about the missing link that was never found , missing links , bones and skulls made of plastic , cartonboard , gyps, cement ,wood etc , throughout all museums in the world , Ecce evolutia !...

Is this what you think I don't know ?

In my coment I show that neither "god created man " neither "man created god " .

There are endless , and fair true arguments for both sides , which is why I believe and conclude that the truth is in the middle. What you understand of it is not my business.

"Your particular blend of Christianity and Deism " ???

Did I say I believe God made us ? Do you know what is Christianity ?

Did I say I am a Cristian ? Do I go to church ? Or pray to Jesus ? Or give tithes ?

Does your definition that I am a Christiano-Deist include the Lost book of Enki ?

Do you read the original bible ? Do you also know some science and history ?

How long did you studied this ?

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It's nice to come back here and know what people think about all this .. I just copied all this page ...

God MADE man , it is plainly explained in the hebrew texts ... God MADE man and everything out of MATTER , God did not CREATE anything .

So first of all it helps to envision God as a great Architect , a Supreme Engineer , a Genious of Genious genetic engineer and designer , etc etc..

The habitual thinking of a God who pulls out doves from the hat is ... hilariously stupid and non scriptural...

On the other hand ,lately, researchers have shown how the human DNA genom is encoded in just 46 chromozomes unlike 48 as all other planetary primates. Obviously this raised another wave of controversies and argumentation , expecially when the scientsts pulled out mistakes done in this genetic engineering or if you want to call it "cration" , that's ok . But if you ask a genetician he can show you and explain you that we are NOT perfect , biologically . It intrigues me how in fact we are a bit of a virus compared to other species which perfectly adapt into the envirionment and that without distroying it. Let us be honest , we humans have extinguished many other species , fair enough for other species to bite back sometimes... The God of the Bible endlessly worked ,fought to bring about the time when we live in ballance to ourselves and as well to other species and possibly , maybe , to him . Either you look at this from religious perspective, either from an atheist perspective , we humans are just distroying this planet and distroying ourseves in enless fight for evolution , adaptation , individual win over the others , just like animals , lets say it , we resemble perfectly the animal instincts of preservation and evolution , fight for survival and adaptation even if that means downgrading of another human. How does that go with the bible logic ? It doesnt . If you are a christian you still go to a examination to obtain a job , when you get the job and another one remains unemployed , do you abandon thatfor him ? No...

If you are a believer you still struggle to have what we call the best "level" , the best job , the best wife , the most healthy and longly life , power over your enemies , you see ? , these are simply the evolution instincts made religion.

Does that make me a non believer , no , I still believe in God , but not that way :

I just see Him a Great Architect .

There are long and endless argumentations , both pro and contra , so obviously the truth is deep between these two.

Neither man created God neither God created man.

God made man , man then developed a totally weird version of the story , in other words , man himself made as well a God ...

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The hebrew verb bara does NOT mean to create.

If you read a little hebrew and look on the other verses where the verb "bara" is written your hair will rise...

When the septuagint was translated the greeks used the word "poieo " which means "to MAKE" ...

The word "create" as you just read it , was introduced by the Latina Vulgata.

Please see this article :

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