Thanks Bradf0rd(1136), I feel your arguement has alot of good meaning and virtual thinking embedded in it, and, like you, I don't believe we have an ending to this journey and it doesn't take a philosopher to realise that because when the first man saw the first ever complete day and then unexpectantly saw the sun rise again, he knew it would never end.

I believe that we have spirits encaged in us that will never die out. Even though our influence on the world will some day be finished that doesn't mean there is never another hirizon, we all just keep living in this ever changing climate called time.

I believe that Australians should be proud for our culture, history and heratige but don't see in there anywhere, where we can grasp a culture that deminishes our pride in our nation.

We may sport banners to salut our favourite footy team and be die-heart Holden and Ford fans but Bogans are low-lives that Aussies aren't meant or proud to be.