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1 point

That's an easy question. How are they treated like objects? You watch porn and tell me what the color of the girls eyes are. Watch porn and tell me if she's a religious person. Watch porn and tell me if she loves to hang with friends. Watch porn and tell me what her thoughts are politically. You can't because your just looking at her breasts and but. The right way to look at anyone including girls is to look at them as a personality and not an object. Looking at that naked girl is just thinking about her breasts and other nasty stuff on her body and not thinking about regular stuff like does she love her mom and dad or does she have a strong relationship with him brother or something. Your objectifying her and In case you didn't know objectify someone is treating them and looking at them like an object.

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The atheist Christian war is outrageous. I want to speak to religious people for a sec.

Christians, I have to say I'm disappointed in ourselves. Including me. From this society, some of us have tried to push and shove religion into other people's throats and atheists are sick of it. They don't like that and God doesn't like it either. God put us on this earth to proclaim his word to anyone who wants to hear it. If they don't want to hear it then they don't have to. If you want to convert someone then you have to be respectful to them. God either wants us to love him or reject him. Rejecting him is there decision, not yours. We need to hold back and just proclaim his word the way Jesus did when he was on this earth. Think about something's you or other Christians have done. I'm not the perfect Christian because I'm in the wrong as well. We need to proclaim the word or God to everyone without shoving it in there face. We shouldn't cause a war over it. It's unchristian. Us shoving our beliefs in there face is no better then ISIS shoving there beliefs into our faces by killing our brothers and sisters. God put us here to love and not hate.

Now I want to say something to atheists.

Atheists, today I found a debate on this site that was titled "To stupid for science? Try religion" I bet some of you have seen that one. That made me really angry. You guys want to show people that religion is stupid and dumb. I firmly disagree with that but I respect the fact that you are strong on your beliefs. But why would you tell us that we're dumb and stupid for what we believe in. Calling us stupid and dumb for believing in something that you don't believe isn't making you a better person. Some atheists believe in the Big Bang while Christians believe in the creation story so what gives you the right to tell us we're dumb for believing in something that to you sounds crazy when you believe in something that is just as crazy and has the same chance of not even being real. Just like I said to the Christians, you guys are also no better then ISIS killing Christians just because they don't agree with you.

Both sides are in the wrong about started this war. Both sides are acting like ISIS. Christians by shoving there faith into other people and atheists for killing the people who don't agree with everything they tell them. We all can be the better people in this situation. THAT DOESNT MEAN WE HAVE TO AGREE ON EVERYTHING! I know I'm not gonna ever agree with an atheist but does that give me the right to try and make them think the way I think? Does it give the atheist a reason to beat me down just because I don't agree? It goes both ways and we all need to join sides, put our differences behind us, and stop this war. Btw ITS GETTING NO WHERE!!!!! People on the opposite side need to instead have a regular conversation with the other side and have an exchange of ideas. I'm a Christian but I also love to learn about how atheism works and what they believe in. It's very interesting. I'm sure some atheist also loves to learn about religion even though he doesn't believe in it because religion is also very interesting. Can't we just stop the madness?

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Well that is very true. In a scientific sense no you can't prove nor disprove the existence of God because God is immintieral. But there's some strong arguments the can help show that there is a God like the argument of design, the many miricles that have happened that science to this day can't explain, the subject of morality, etc. Some people don't believe in God because of the argument of how the world was made. Personally, I'm not completely sure about it because I'm not a full blown creationist. I know the story of genesis isn't fully historical so I'm not completely sure. I know lots atheists believe that the world was made by what is known as the Big Bang theory and that amazes me that atheists believe that and I will tell you why. Atheists claim that nothing supernatural in the bible actually happened and stuff but they believe that one day there was nothing and then amazingly there was everything! From nothing to something. If the Big Bang was true then that would be a miracle because science believes that something can just become something out of nothing. Science believe that nothing can instantly be real out of nothing. That also brings in the first cause argument. To go on with the Big Bang, like I said before, you are right that scientifically we can't prove or disprove God but how can you prove the Big Bang theory? You can't because you weren't there.

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That's when you a have a string faith in him. As Christians, we know that there are immaterial things. Yes we can't see, feel, smell God but some people have felt is presents before. Some by seeing miricles or in adoration. It's blind faith that we believe in.

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Can a gun get up, walk over to someone, and shoot them? No. It's the person behind the gun because think about it. For a war or conflict to be started, it needs to be started by someone who can declare war. Someone who can say, "this is war". Guns can make decisions, guns can't talk, guns can't move around on there own. For the people who think guns shouldn't be aloud I think live in a cartoon, a g rated cartoon.

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Religion is not a living being. It can't start wars. That's also like saying its guns that start war. No, it's the person behind the reason that starts the war. If this were just a world of reason and not people then there would be no wars because only people can start it. People also say it's the southern flag that the reason why there is war. Can to flags stand up and start a fist fight? No because flags aren't living beings. It's the person that starts the wars. All those things that I said like the flag, guns, and religion can be the reason for a war but they never started a war. That's when people can put there differences behind them. For example: people think religion caused the war between the world and ISIS. No it's the ISIS that started it. Not the religion. There religion is the reason but the religion never started the war.

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Just because it "seems" barley religious still makes it religious. And that's not a true statement. Christmas is an extremely religious holiday because it's not only about giving and receiving but it's also about the celebration of the birth of Jesus. Look this up on google:

Christmas is the Christian festival celebrating Christs birth in the church

Plus Christmas has the word Christ in it.

1 point

First of all thank you for that comment. I guessing you are an atheist and this website is some what a battle between atheists and Christians but I think it's an exchange of ideas and that's why I like your comment. This is a question that can some what confuse Christians and atheists alike. At first it did confuse me. I like what you said in in the first sentence of your response where by atheists being able to see right and wrong, morality ahah, they can see that Christmas is a time of bringing people together and that's very good. Here is where we differ. The part that doesn't make any sense is the reason why we come together during the Christmas season is to celebrate the birth of Jesus. Not just because it's for family to come together. I mean that could be any time of the year. It also doesn't make sense because of your last statement where you say atheists can go to an event that doesn't support atheism because it doesn't matter. Let's put that in another example by saying that there's a pro choice person partaking in the pro life March. It doesn't make sense because that's what there against is pro life. Another example would be for like a black person to go to a KKK rally. It doesn't make sense. Like I said before the whole reason for Christmas is the celebration of the birth of Our God that I believe in. It makes no sense for an atheist to partake in something they don't believe in no matter if they care or not.

2 points

I am a man of God and this website I believe is about exchange of ideas but this comment right here is idiots in the making.

1. Your so stupid if you love brutality

2. We lie because we sin and God will forgive us for or sin. Just because we lie does it make it good? No. Just because people murder people does it make it good? No. It's morality 101

3. Pleasssssse tell me that's sarcasm because if it is then haha but that's not a good argument but if it's not then this truly an idiot in the making like I said before

4. Everything God made is for a reason. Some we have no idea why like you said will viruses and mosquitoes etc. yes we have to die one day so does that mean we stop believing in God? No. Plus which one is better: live in what can be the worst place unimaginable (with satan) or living with someone who promises and will give us eternal happiness (with God) I mean if you had to choose something that made you bored or something you would have fun with. It's common sense 101

5. Yes the "free will card" is the answer. God gave us free will to live out our lives to either love him or reject him. If he eliminated us then why give us free will in the first place. Plus we are the ones that make suffering and pain in this world by Us committing murder, rape, and other crimes. It's not Gods fault. Now you say it is his fault that we do that because he gives us the right to do it because of free will. Now all of that is right except for the fact that it's not Gods fault because that's the reason he gave us free will. To love him, follow his word, and stay away from sin so we can continue to love him. Plus, it wasn't God that created sin. Read the first book of the bible. It was Satan, yes your "beloved all loving leader" satan that tempted people to do wrong. HE WANTS US TO DO WRONG!!!!! That's like have bad parents who don't care about you

6. We worship so we can continue to love him because just loving him is worshiping him

7. He died to save us for the eternal suffering of your "God" which I'm guessing is satan

8. Amen means "I believe" in case you didn't know so that statement is so dumb

I this this debate is just trying to find out who has common sense and who doesn't.

2 points

As we all know, atheists do not only believe that Christianity is wrong but all religion is wrong and that there is no type of God or higher being. I see atheist youtubers most of the time bash on primarily the Christian community and not other religions. Since Christmas is a religious holiday, a Christian holiday, it doesn't make sense for them to not only take part in it but also support it. The true meaning of Christmas and the Christmas story is about the birth of Jesus, our Lord and Savior. Christmas is celebrating Jesus' birth day. So since atheists don't believe in Jesus, why would he celebrate his birthday? To put insult over injury (for the atheist community), every house that Iv been to during Christmas and every family know that celebrates Christmas, Christians and atheists alike, I see either a Star or an Angel on top of the tree. The Star represents the North Star that lead the 3 wiseman along with everyone else to see Jesus and the Angel represents the Angel Gabriel that came to Mary the Mother of God to tell her that she is will child. So why would atheists do this? For the life of me, I have no idea. I can't tell you why because it doesn't make any sense but what I can't tell you is that it doesn't make any sense.

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