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Where did I said "against their will"? Why do you lay on me what I didn't say?

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How it can traumatize them? And why an ice cream can't? I still did not got the difference.

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Why do you think it doing them harm?

So, what's wrong with power difference, and why it can prevent the consent?

I asking you for the facts. I will change my mind as soon as you will proof that there is even single fact that sex is in any way dangerous to children.

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But it doesn't make sense. You said that child can not consent. That means he cannot give consent for eating ice cream.

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So you can't buy your child an ice cream because he can't consent? And that is the same as forcefully feeding adult person except far more appalling because he is a child?

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That is why they need adults, who will understand the world around them for them. What's wrong with that? What's wrong with power difference? How you can proof that action itself makes harm over time, and not social reaction and taboo on that?

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If victim report about "hurt" or "disgust" or "he forced me" that's another question. We don't talk about such things, we're talking about "consent". Do you know what it is?

And you have any supporting evidence for blaming "perpetrator". It is normal for you to blame people without evidences?

If socity is responsible for this damage, then it must to change, that's obvious.

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Beating wife makes harm to her. It's proven, because harm is visible immediately after direct physical action, and we can see psychological harm too, looking on her face and seeing her strongly negative emotions.

But we can't see such immediate harm on a child, if such relations were mutual. Yes, we can see statistical correlation between such activity in childhood and greater risk of depression or alcoholism in adulthood. But you must know: correlation does not imply causation. And in this case most plausible explanation for such correlation is that: Psychological damage is made not by action itself, but by social reaction to such action. Child can feel himself well until certain age when he will understand the "true meaning" of this action and will understand that he was "spoiled".

You're wrong saying that pedophiles cannot relate to their peers. They can, they just don't want to. There are no psychological or physiological differences between pedophiles and non-pedophiles except their sexual preferences. Any expert can say you that: They're all look like pretty ordinary people.

You said that children perceive them to have authority because they are adults. Okay, most pedophiles are against such hierarchy, but okay. But... don't you think it will be much better if you will teach your children to not perceive adults as authority unless they are: Teacher, Doctor or Parent? What's wrong can be from that if most adults and most children will perceive each other as equal?

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May be it's better to change your believes rather than locking people in prison under guidance of such believes?

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If this is the reason then why age of consent laws spread on homosexual relations too?

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