Okay. I do not think that was the point this poster was even trying to make. This is what those on the pro side keeping pushing as their lame argument; the argument that others objections are somehow about their own disdain and resistant towards our most basic biological needs and processes. When in fact, I don't think anybody here against the institution of pornography is really even saying that. Of course, we need and desire sex but that is just not the point

You say that research shows that couples who watch pornography are in fact happy and in great healthy relationships. This is a difficult claim to make and thus for this I would have to see the detailed methodology and collection of data for such information. Sorry, but I must be skeptical here. Making couples more physically aroused. Okay that makes sense. but improving that many other complex dimension within the relationship, I do not know about that. Also, why would you need to watch pornography to have a more healthy and positive relationship, even in the bedroom. This does not seem very genuine to me and would make one wonder if there are perhaps other issues going on that are not disclosed in the findings.

Well said. I completely argree with this statement. Very logical and simple

In the case of pornography we do in fact have to begin by expanding the argument past sexuality as purely natural. We must also look into matters such as morality and even spirituality much deeper. Let me make this very simple here so that I may express a very general point that aims at the heart of our common humanity, not pointing to any particular religious doctrine or any other pointless argument that the pro side of pornography would offer: If you choose a lifestyle like pornography you are in fact making a pre meditated and conscious CHOICE to engage in an activity that can in fact harm people and in some extreme cases of STD's such as Aids, lead to the death and suffering of other indidviduals. This is a no brainer here. What part of pornography being harmful do you not understand unless you are someone who lives life every day with thoughtless, senseless actions and not even the slightest shread of human dignity and moral sense to your life. I have heard these new age morons talk about sex as being all spiritual and everything and yet have no objections to the interpersonal and even societal effects of things like prostiution and pornography. And even if we could eliminate all the great physcial harms through science being able to eradicate all STD's. Imagine that. No Aids. However, this would not solve the deeper spiritual, emotional, and even all moral complexities that can arise out of such an institution. As humans our goal should be to aspire to a higher level of existence, in body mind and spirit. It is to enhance ourselves both intellectually and spiritually above the desires of the flesh for greater aims. So if you feel the need to fuck everyone that you come in contact with for material exchange like money, perhaps it is you that has the problem and not the rest of society. Dont make this an issue of sexual oppression. It will not work. Your arguments on how supressed society is sexually have become irrelevent and better arguments will come against you both publicy and in the private contemplation brought forth out of your own self reflection. Answer me this. If the point does indeed come down to sexual pleasure than why can it not also include love, compassion and responsibility. Or should anyone feel sorry for those who once had the greatest sex and passion in their marriage and left it for what. hmm. Seems to me this is not really a religious issue after all. Look inside for those of you who view such material and especially those of you who participapte. Love is compassion. Love is responsibility. If you live a life that produces death in spirit and harm to others by spreading disease, tell me in one compelling argument how society could have the one thing to truly make it grow, LOVE.