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I am not trying to justify the actions of Hamas and other militant groups, because they are doing the same thing to innocent Israeli women and children as Israel is doing to innocent Palestinian women and children. But the problem here is that Palestinians cannot stop attacking Israel, because of Israel's policies toward them, which include treating them as second class citizens and denying them the ability to find good jobs, etcetera. Most of all, it is because even when Israel says it is for peace, it turns around and builds more settlements, advancing even further into Palestinian territory on their quest for the entire "Holy Land". So, even as Israel tries to say that they are only reacting to Palestinian violence, which under other circumstances may be a legitimate claim, they have actually never stopped their Zionist, ideological quest. In the end, the only way to separate right from wrong is to look at what happened in the first place, which is the ethnic cleansing of Palestinian Arabs from their own land in order to make way for a Jewish state which was illegally (under international law) supported by the United States, and is still being supported through the extremely influential Israel Lobby.
I don't hate Jews. I just hate those radical Jews who are so blinded by ideology and nationalism that they do not see the reality of what has happened since 1948 and even before then.
Oil? OPEC provides oil as a whole, and we surely aren't getting free or even cheap oil from Iraq...
OPEC controls oil. Which means the US is dependent on them. Dick Cheney (hello?? CEO of Halliburton???) has always wanted to put his grubby hands on Iraq's oil supply. He just thought it would be easier than this, that's all.
Saddam not only tried to kill Bush senior, he also violated a shitload of UN Resolutions along with being a fuckin' genocidal maniac.
Genocidal maniac? Please don't tell me you are talking about the Kurds. Good God, don't you know anything? Don't you know that it was the United States that allowed him to do it in the first place???
. Psychology is actually my field (thanks for bringing it up). We were already at war. Rally round your president wasn't effective because of Iraq, it was effective because of the war on terror.
So why did the United States invade Iraq? Why did Bush/Cheney/Rove and all those other idiots lie to the American public about Iraq? You say psychology is your field and you don't know this basic concept? Of course Iraq was a reelection strategy. Have you actually seen the data on this? Come on.
the whole superpower concept has little or nothing to do with taking out a mass murderer like Saddam Hussein. The fact is, his time was up
You shouldn't talk about things you know absolutely nothing about. Read about the Cold War, then read about the period after the Cold War, then read about how the world has changed since the end of the Cold War. Iraq had quite a bit to do with the superpower concept. Too bad the results were opposite of those intended.
Saddam was not our ally anymore... he didn't like Osama, yes, but he even let al-Qaeda set up in his country. you know, the infamous al-Qaeda leader al-Zarqawi.
Go double-check your history. Ask yourself when al-Zarqawi joined al-Qaeda in Iraq. Then connect the dots.
But Chemical WMDs were there, enough to take out a few more cities actually
When? Were these weapons there at the time of the invasion of 2003? Or were they:
A) from the period when everyone knew Saddam had them (80s-90s), or,
B) new weapons in response to an unjustified invasion from the U.S. in 2003?
You shouldn't need a multiple choice question. There is not one piece of evidence that suggests these WMDs existed as a threat prior to 2003. In fact, the evidence contradicts this. I don't need to give you a source because all you have to do is read a book, google it, read a scholarly journal, whatever. Just stay away from Fox News.
They are a kickass ally in the war against Radical Islam.
That tends to be the default argument of supporters of Israel. Too bad it's wrong. Without Israel, terrorists would have significantly less to fight for. Too bad people don't understand the concept of "know thy enemy." Because if they did, they would understand the mentality of Islamic terrorists. And they would understand that the focus of Islamic jihad is mainly Israel.
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