France in 2009 worked 1554 hours average while america worked 1768 hours.

could you describe how americans work harder than europeans?

Also if the japanese work harder than the americans than why aren't they making more money? Is that justified?

I see your point.

though i don't think its actually the model's problem, its that the real world can't fit them.

Pure capitalism and pure communism would both work in an ideal world, but if it was an ideal world we wouldn't need neither.

Actually other religions can take a part in this argument. While not a choice, they can show the weaknesses in either Christianity and atheism.

For instance the argument that there had to be a creator because the earth and humans are too complicated can be questioned with why does it have to be a CHRISTIAN god when it can be other gods.

1. It must be hollow because it has never been proven otherwise.

2. The earth is also suspiciously in the shape of a balloon, and balloons are hollow, so the earth must be hollow.

There, two extremely well supported reasons why the earth is hollow.

"If it wasn't for the Arab attack on the jews in 1948, the british mandate of palestine would have been divided into an Arab state and a Jewish state as per the UN plan. Pity they lauched an attack on the Jews which resulted in the latter's victory, followed by the creation of Israel. Not their fault the Arabs attacked them!"

Under that thought then doesn't Tibet rightfully belong to China???

Also why did the UN (which was then mostly controlled by US, Britain, and France) have the right to control who get which land?

I'd like to say a normal no, but the concept of a "war" has changed drastically in recent years. This debate would have been better if their was a goal to the war like take over japan or exterminate the other side or militarily dominate the other country.

Realistically if there was all out war it would just be nukes so there wouldn't really be much of China (nor other countries) left.

If it was a conventional war assuming nuclear weapons didn't exist, I'd assume that Americans goal would be to conquer and turn China into a democratic country similar to what it did (or at least tried to) in Vietnam, Iraq and others.

In that scenario the USA would probably fail, with the huge population of China as well as a pretty solid nationalist population, which would resist foreign takeovers. USA could probably easily destroy most of China's navy and airforce with much ease. The hardest one would be the army, the large army even if badly trained wouldn't be easy for any army in the world to defeat without sustaining heavy losses.