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audacious and disrespectful, not qualities for a good debate.

noticed you failed to mention where it is flawed

i suppose you agree that UK colonizing South Africa was a good thing because they turned its poverty into a thriving country too?

should african americans be glad they were kidnapped as slaves because now they are in a thriving country?

Palestine was far from a shithole you dont know your history.

and Israel does not welcome everyone they are literally conducting illegal evictions of thousands of civilians. you use the word terrorist as a generalised term for all Arabs to justify the inhumane conditions they are treating Palestinians.

you clearly are not debating to learn or educate others but rather projecting your ignorance towards arabs which is something that has clearly been taught to you from a young age. that mentality is not needed for this debate

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the topics id like to address first are: palestine before the settling, previous and recent war crimes against civilians, previous and recent evictions, blockade and poor living conditions, lack of media coverage, HAMAS, and current situation of palestinian people.

(please forgive if you find the addressed topics are worded in a biased manner)

Palestine before settling: the common claim that Palestine was never a country before Israel is not true. Palestine was under the United Kingdom mandate just as Lebanon was under the French mandate. after the mandate ended Lebanon was free as an independent country but UK decided to hand over a country to other people. "a people without land for a land without people" the quote of the promised land. this land in fact had people, and culture, and airport and movies and music and ethnicity and so much more. Furthermore, Palestine was never owned by the United kingdom to be handed over it was under the mandate that ended in 1948 that does not in anyway suggest a transfer of ownership.

supporting sources:

https://encyclopedia.1914-1918-online.net/article/british mandateforpalestine

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MandateforPalestine

and obviously theres plenty more

war crimes and evictions: Even though there is very little media coverage on the situation for years now israeli soldiers and police have been shooting civilians, women and children, arresting young boys and convicting them under military law, shooting innocent civilians with rubber bullets (theres videos of 4 week old baby being covered in rubber bullets. israeli soldiers wearing "1 shot two kills" T shirts while shooting pregnant palestinian women has become a trend. jewish civilians terrorising palestinian communities knowing that the police wont protect the palistinians. and anything else you can imagine when the ruling military power is jewish and the civilian palestinians are not welcomed by the ruling power.

Evictions range from jewish families from brooklyn moving into homes that were previously owned by palestinans that are now homeless sleeping on the streets. the israeli government forcing Palestinians to pay for the demolition of their homes and if they dont they will demolish it for them and charge them the cost. the UN and many countries have acknowledged these actions as illegal evictions and nothings being done about it. countless videos of these have been shown all over media and the internet even though main media sources such as fox news wont show any of this. (face book was censoring these topics for a long time). these war crimes and evictions have been going on for years but in light of the current situation they have been caught on camera more often.

source: https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries/middle-east-and-north-africa/israel-and-occupied-palestinian-territories/report-israel-and-occupied-palestinian-territories/

again theres plenty more feel free to do your search

blockade and poor living conditions: in short lack of access to clean water electricity medical aid, medicine and much much more is strategically and continuously prevalent in the gaza strip and many other Palestinian community areas, and has been for years now.

https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/external publications/EP60000/EP67494/EP-67494.pdf

Media coverage: i mentioned during war crimes and evictions that there is little to no media coverage on main news platforms and believe that this is done by design.

HAMAS: usually the most common justification of israels actions is "terrorism" which when heard by americans still traumatised by 9/11 immediately lose any sympathy for the families suffering under these attacks.

Israel took over in 1948 and since then has been expanding evicting and forcing its way into further control into Palestinian territories. the things we are seeing today regarding evictions and attack on civilians... has been going on for years and since the initial NAKBA

The Nakba (Arabic: النكب77;R06;, romanized: an-Nakbah, lit. '"disaster", "catastrophe", or "cataclysm"'), also known as the Palestinian Catastrophe, was the destruction of Palestinian society and homeland in 1948, and the permanent displacement of a majority of the Palestinian people.

HAMAS was established in 1987. there was 39 years of Israel doing its thing to Palestinians before HAMAS was made as a reaction. although i dont agree with HAMAS and dont support it, it was established as a reaction to almost 40 years of oppression and suffering and Nakba. furthermore if someone took over a European land forcefully and violently and displaced most of those people and 40 years later they try to take their land back through force as well people wouldn't be calling them terrorists.

the whole "two sides to the story" does not go back to HAMAS terrorism it goes back 40 years of oppression first.

Palestinians now:

currently Palestinian civilians are living in poor conditions with little to no access to clean water medicine or protection, are exposed to violence from jewish radicalists with no protection from the police or the military. are getting killed shot with rubber bullets arrested for simply protesting. Jewish communities through their protests are chanting "death to arabs" "nakba number two is coming" "we will burn your villages" palestinians are being evicted forced to demolish their own homes and are being displaced in mass numbers.

what information am i missing or where am i mistaken for you as a person to see what is happening and still support a state that is so plainly conducting acts of apartheid discrimination, war crimes, illegal evictions and much more.

once again excuse me for sounding aggressive or judgmental. this is truly an attempt to expand my mind and learn both sides. i look forward to having this debate with whoever wishes to.

kindest regards


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