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Christians: why does your God neglect his Flock?

What I mean is, it is common knowledge.....I have posted stats before...that the most religious States in the USA, those with the highest percentage of churchgoers and Christians, are also the very poorest!

They live the lowest quality of life, most poverty, lowest income, and worst health.

Also they are saddled with the highest infsnt mortality rates.

Why?

Why won't your sky god help his most devout? His biggest believers?

Where the fuck is he when these souls starve and these babies die?

Why are people in poverty and on welfare twice as likely to be believers as educated and emp!oyed folks like yours truly?

Yes! Contrary to what FromWithout said once, the welfare rolls are NOT a result of these folks turning from god!  No. Quite the opposite: a person on welfare is twice as likely to be a churchgoer as an employee person not on the rolls. Or as a college student.

They are filled with his Flock!

Again...I humbly ask why?

Why does the capricious and...according the the Bible...murderous Yahweh refuse to help?

Seems he is no better than a deadbeat dad who won't take care of his family, eh!

Why the hell worship THAT??

Again, and in closing..... why worship such a lame dirty who won't help his own?

Thanks!
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Waka FLOCKA Flame?

dadman(1703) Disputed
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what I mean is, it is common knowledge I have posted stats before dat da most thugged-out religious States up in tha USA dem wit tha highest cementage of churchgoers n' Christians is also tha straight-up skankyest they live tha lowest qualitizzle of game most poverty lowest income n' most shitty game also they is saddled wit tha highest infsnt mortalitizzle rates why, biatch? why aint gonna yo' sky god help his crazy-ass most devout, biatch? His freshest believers where tha fuck is da thug when these souls starve n' these babies take a thugged-out dirtnap why is playas up in poverty n' on welfare twice as likely ta be believers as constipated n' emp!oyed folks like yours truly yeaaaa contrary ta what tha fuck fromWithout holla'd once tha welfare rolls aint a result of these folks turnin from god no like tha opposite a thug on welfare is twice as likely ta be a cold-ass lil churchgoer as a hommie thug not on tha rolls. Or as a cold-ass lil college hustla they is filled wit his Flock again n' again n' again I humbly ask why why do tha capricious n' accordin tha the Bizzle murderous Yahweh refuse ta help seems he is no betta than a thugged-out deadbeat daddy whoz ass won't take care of his crew eh why tha hell worshizzle THAT?, biatch? again n' again n' again n' up in closin why worshizzle such a gangbangin' finger-lickin' dirty-ass shitty dirty whoz ass won't help his own props n stuff blah blah blah

SlapShot(2608) Disputed
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So your post here shows me two things.

One...you area a racist and thinks the typical black man speaks in unintelligible Street gibberish.

And you still cannot answer my original debate question.

And you really really call yourself a Christian?

I will give you this....you DO meet my expectations of Christians.

Take that how you want.

One more post from you that does not address my question and you will be banished.

Do you teach your kids racism? AND fill their heads with antiquated Hebrew myths?

I call that child abuse.

Wow.

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Quiet you, he's busy playing Halo.........................................................

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This is stupid stuff, you are dying in your sins in imminent danger of the fire of Hell and not getting pampered enough as you go down? Boo hoo.

SlapShot(2608) Disputed
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You know about Godwins Law, right?

So..there should be one for you deluded fundies that posits one of you will yank a fires.of.hell Bible passage out of their butts whenever a rational atheists like me asks you a question you cannot understand.

Maybe I will invent this law and name it after myself and enter it on Wiki!

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
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You have never asked me a question I cannot understand, and have consistently avoided discussing scientific data and facts I present in support of God's ownership and rule over you and all of nature, and you also avoid answering realistic questions of philosophy......facts of life, such as in reference to the importance and inescapability of every moment of your time in everything you say, do and imagine. You avoid the issues and try to tell me none of it matters because you hope to escape in death......and claim you know that you escape in death when you cannot know that until you cross the line forever.

Anybody who believes they escape punishment in death is not being rational. Death is a punishment, dying is justice and you can't get out of it by saying it's not real......and you already did pass a law but I doubt you will get any credit for it, the law of Hockey Is The Greatest Game and Detroit is the Greatest City and Slap Shot is the greatest atheist he knows. I'm sorry to say that generally few people are impressed with that law.

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Well Hell!!

It's been over 26 hours now.

And....sell well...whatta ya know?

Not ONE good answer from the thumpers.

Not even one remotely satisfying answer.

Which does not surprise me.

I should have learned by now!

How can they explain divine lack of justice when there is no God?

I'm gonna shut this down now.

As all that I'll here is how I'm gonna burn for daring to question the murderous Yahweh's ways.

See.it's what the Thumpers do when they get caught in their Lie.

Hail!

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When bad things happen to Gods people .... http://www.gty.org/products/Audio-Series/239_When-Bad-Things-Happen-to-Gods-People ... enjoy :)

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Yeah...I read that book many years ago by Rabbi Kushner.

And found it totally unsatisfying.

According to him God can intervene but chooses not to help his Flock.

So to me this just reaffirms that he is as useless as a deadbeat drunken father who lets his adoring kids starve.

Why don't you answer my questions in the debate header on your own? Since you as a good Christian have an inside track to gods will?

Instead of pasting a link to somebody else?

A rabbie, no less!

Really?

Oye vaye!

Meshugennah!

LOL

dadman(1703) Disputed
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well with your head in the sand you learn nothing

Yeah... I read that book many years ago by Rabbi Kushner .....

these are audio file by John MacArthur not a book by Rabbi Kushner ...

God will indeed soon spare us from stupid (willfully ignorant) people

Instead of pasting a link to somebody else?

no problem ... it's less than the least I would do ..... for you

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oh, it's you.....I would not have responded if I knew this was your discussion. The OP is tired old worn out clichés......God is still on the throne no matter how bad things are in this world, and He will bring His children into His glory soon enough. If you think God is neglecting Christians, who is neglecting you? Nobody is there to care enough to be accused of being neglectful?

I only read a few words of this OP, then half way down saw some vile cussing, looked over and saw it was you.....I don't know why atheists think it's good to be hateful

SlapShot(2608) Disputed
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Nobody who cares enough to neglect me?

Really?

That's a new one!

So you deluded Christians are so desperate now to try and degfend your make believe God against our constant barrage of disproofs for him that you now claim his neglect is a sign of his love?

Really?

Really?

Wow.

Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel!

It reminds me of how you dolts say that your sky god always answers your prayers, but sometimes the answer is No.

You DO realize that a ten year old child who invented an invisible friend and tried to tell his parents it was real could do as good a job in justifying it as you Christians do for your god?

Right?

Thanks for confirming.

Oh........

None of you has YET answered my question!

Why won't your God help his most Devout? Those who say they love him?

I'm gonna write a song for my buddy who is in a black metal band.

They do lots of anti God songs.

I'm gonna entitlle it......Deadbeat Dad.

I think it'll be a hit!

How bout you, saint No?

Thanks?

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
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I have answered your question, you are ignoring mine...who is neglecting you, allowing you do progress in dying toward who knows what sufferings before your dying is finalized? Who is neglecting you? Nobody? You imply God neglects His people while you are dying yourself and facing a painful departure from this world....so who is neglecting to do something about your plight? Nobody, correct? Nobody really cares? God loves you, son, you better believe it.

God sends rain on the just and on the unjust alike....you enjoy God's sunshine the same as me because God is good. The consequences of sin fall on everybody and only God's mercy allows people to continue in time without being destroyed...and the destruction I'm referring there is eternal dying in Hell....if you don't believe that, don't let it bother you and there is no reason for you to get offended or angry when I say you have one foot in the grave and the other on thin ice which is melting over the fire of Hell. You can just LOL at the concept of eternal damnation, and say I'm a funny guy which I really am....I won an award in high school for best sense of humor and was known as the king of the cut downs....but I never joke regarding Hell, and never use the word as a profanity.....but you can LOL at the concept and say I'm funny when I talk about it. You don't have to throw a Dawkins-style hissy fit.

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mr SlapSlot will be so sorely disappointed (horrified) as the last thing he sees as he is being thrown into the Eternal Lake of Fire (Rev 20) ...

passing the other way .. God's children being escorted to the Eternal State of Eternal Life in the presence of God (creator of a new Heaven and a new Earth) ....

the final realization of what he forfeited because he was so in love w/ his sin ....

a sad loss indeed ... to be contemplated forever

SlapShot(2608) Disputed
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Oh...so now...in typical Christian fashion you pull a lame ass Bible fable passage out of your flabby ass that condemns me to hell, since I ask a rational question that...like ALL rational questions to an Irrational religion...you cannot answer!

Pathetic.

You know about Godwins Law? The thing about how on internet debate forums it is only a matter of time, in a discussion on politics or government, that somebody mentions Hitler?

Well, there should be one...maybe there is!..about you deluded fundies.

That says it's only a matter of time till one of you..in exasperation of being unable to answer us....runs to your bloody Bible for a fires of hell passage!

Lame.

Please tell me you're not really a Dad?

dadman(1703) Clarified
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since I ask a rational question ... and I gave you a rational link

you pull a lame ass Bible fable passage out of your flabby ass that condemns me to hell .... you are already condemned to Hell .... you need salvation ... end of story

Saintnow(3684) Clarified
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I'm afraid you are right, but I'm hoping Mr. Slap Shot will get saved and prove you wrong. I've rubbed elbows with some formerly hardcore atheists like Slap Shot who got saved, and they have wonderful testimonies of how God found them and what they had to go through before the repented of their sin and believed on the Lord Jesus Christ.

One lady I know was a third generation atheist whose father taught atheism as a credited college class. One day it dawned on her, "what if I'm wrong and the Christians are right? My daughter will end up in Hell if they are right. She decided it was unwise to be unsure, believed from her heart that Jesus is God and by God raised from the dead, and received Him as her Savior and was born of the Spirit of God, born again and never turned back to her old ways and beliefs. Slap Shot really is afraid of the changes he knows he will have to stand in if he believes the gospel......he's very dependent on peer approval. He needs to understand that we are not fighting against him, but for him. We wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, and powers, and spiritual wickedness in high places.......

SlapShot(2608) Clarified
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That is hardly an impressive conversion. That story about the atheist lady who converted because she was afraid her kids might go to hell.

Which does not exist, of course.

But...yeah...that womam was only taking ol' Pascal up on his wager.

A famous rationale he once made for believing.

And one that always left me cold as well. He was simply hedging his bets, and was not a true believer.

Just like the lady you mentioned .

She was simply looking for answers, and got scared.

As is the case for most when they find their make believe gods.