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The child is also mine. I will not give up my right to my child. ;)

I see what you are saying and I would def consider father's rights if I was preggo, but if the woman is at risk of actual trauma cuz of the pregnancy, she should have the final say. This is why prenups are needed. ;)

I can make allowances for "risk of actual trauma." ;)

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I nod my head and remind myself that women cannot lose arguments against men.

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I dispute that. ;)

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You are correct.

 

I want to punch that guy in the face.

I point out the inherent sexism in restricting freedom of belief to women or men. Anyone has the right to believe anything for any reason in any way.

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Good for you, but should a man's beliefs be considered? You are saying they can believe whatever they want, but should what they believe count for something?

That is not what Im saying. Obviously the woman has the final say.

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If it's gotten to the point of a discussion about abortion in a relationship, (or lack of relationship in some cases) then yes, it's the women's choice. If there was a discussion with the male in the equation and she's onto thinking about abortion, then he's already made it clear that he doesn't want the child.

This obviously doesn't apply to the cases that the woman hides the pregnancy from the male.

Males shouldn't have a say in abortion, they SHOULD have a say in whether they want to keep the child though, there's a difference. If he doesn't want to keep it, care for it, or is making it clear he'll help support the baby, then the abortion topic is for the woman.

I agree. Im just pointing out that everyone should have their opinon. :)

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I agree that the person not getting an abortion should never have any choice in deciding to get one. However I see the argument that is raised when it is mentioned that a man who got a woman pregnant by accident, will now be in servitude to her for 18 years, seemingly giving him no choice.

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I've heard that argument. And I somewhat agree that if the mother can have an out through abortion, then a father shouldn't be forced into paying child support and such. But it has to be made very clear, legally speaking, that he did not want to keep the child from the start. There's too many men who convince the woman not to have an abortion with false promises that he'll be there to help her raise the child and support the child financially, then don't.

It has to be made VERY clear before the child is born who plans on doing what, or just having an abortion.