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Liberals stereotype conservatives by saying the conservatives are stereotyping

Its seems that, while liberals are open to others and criticize Conservatives for stereotyping, that they are creating a stereotype that all conservatives stereotype

They are, and how?

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They aren't, and how?

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Science says that Liberals don't understand conservatives as much as Conservatives understand Liberals.

Interesting study. There's a site called knowyourmorals.com (i think), and it studies what kind of morality you hold. Differentiates between Conservatives, Liberals and Independents. The guy wanted to see what kind of morality people of different ideologies hold dear. He found that Liberals hold the idea of equality most important and Conservatives found the idea of Order most important.

This guy also found that Liberals are the WORST at understanding what their counter-parts believe in. This is more important in a debate forum since part of debate is knowing what your opponent is talking about.

If you create stereotypes and don't actually try to understand your opponent, it's gonna be hard to have a REAL debate.

So really, the psychiatrist who did all this found that Conservatives are authoritarians, but Liberals are self-involved.

lol.

Side: They are, and how?
casper3912(1581) Disputed
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Alternatively, liberals understand where conservatives are coming from better than conservatives do.

Rationalizations will paint a pretty picture of what ever ideology one holds, if the rationality actually fits a person's morality or not is another issue.

Side: They aren't, and how?
ThePyg(6738) Disputed
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I don't think you understand how the study was done. it comes specifically from what a group of Conservatives believe and if Liberals were able to identify it. Same for Conservatives.

Looking into the research, it really is quite interesting. Liberals were found to be the worse at understanding their opponent, which only leads to group polarization on both sides. Liberals have all these assumptions and are unable to level with Conservatives. Liberals will continue to believe in what they believe in and Conservatives will continue to believe that Liberals are wrong (especially since they can't even have a proper debate).

Side: They are, and how?
BenWalters(1513) Disputed
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http://rationallyspeaking.blogspot.com/2011/05/jonathan-haidt-does-it-again.html

Against Haidt individually (the person who carried out the study)

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/theory-knowledge/201201/jonathan-haidts-moral-political-psychology

Using Haidt's own words against him:

1) Care for Others/Do no harm; 2) Fairness/Justice/Equality; 3) In-Group Loyalty; 4) Respect for Authority; and 5) Purity. His research shows-across large numbers of people and many different countries-that there are very reliable differences in the degree to which liberals and conservatives differ in the extent to which they endorse these values. Conservatives tend to value the five domains relatively equally. Liberals, in contrast, value the first two domains much more than the latter three.

His own analysis shows that liberals have a much smaller range of views, whilst conservatives care about a wider range. Any study that asks people to then match views to voter bases is therefore unfair, as each side has a very different difficulty.

So, I would recommend you don't read too far into his results, they seem to be relatively baseless. Also, I like how he still manages to call the democrats close minded, despite the fact that he knows the one sidedness of the survey more than anyone else.

Side: They aren't, and how?
ThePyg(6738) Disputed
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Well, the first article had nothing to do with the study, just a criticism of Haidt defending the people who celebrated Bin Laden's death... I'm actually quite alright with celebrating the death of an enemy. That's how we work.

His own analysis shows that liberals have a much smaller range of views, whilst conservatives care about a wider range.

yes.

Any study that asks people to then match views to voter bases is therefore unfair, as each side has a very different difficulty.

That's not how it was done. It was based more on giving relevance, as well.

Liberals failed to do what Conservatives were able to.

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