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Victor Frankenstein Monster
Debate Score:32
Arguments:28
Total Votes:32
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 Victor Frankenstein (13)
 
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Who is the protagonist?

Decide which of these characters is the true monster in Frankenstein. Use textual evidence from chapters 10-12 to support your arguement. You must post two debate responses: (1) offer one response for your protagonist and (2) one response against your antagonist.

If possible, vote for what you think are the most effective arguments. 

Victor Frankenstein

Side Score: 16
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Monster

Side Score: 16
2 points

I believe that the true antagonist in the novel is not the monster everyone seems to hate but Victor Frankenstein. Frankenstein created this monster and let him loose on the world. He does not even reveal the truth of the murderer of his dear brother, William, and Justine Moritz. While, Frankenstein allows himself to keep this horrid secret, there is no excuse that he provides that can save his soul. During chapters 10 through 12, Frankenstein tries to cope with the evil deeds he has committed. He goes to the mountains and uses nature as a soothing drug. However, even in the outmost scenes, his past catches up to him. His creature meets him while Frankenstein was crossing an iced river. The moment that Frankenstein saw that “wretch,” he gave no time for the poor monster to speak. Frankenstein had no hard evidence to prove that the monster was the murderer, nothing but speculation, and the monster knew that his master would approve of his absence. On pages 68 through 70, the altercations that took place in between the master and invention reveal that the true protagonist is indeed the lunatic inventor. “All men hate the wretched; how, then, must I be hated, who am miserable beyond all living things! Yet you my creator detest and spurn me, thy creature, to whom thou art bound ties only dissoluble by the annihilation of one of us . . .” The monster tells Frankenstein that he has not taken responsibility in providing the creature with what he needs, and because of that these omens have occurred by the hand of someone else. All the monster asks is that Frankenstein: “You accuse me of murder, and yet you would, with a satisfied conscience, destroy your own creature. Yet I ask you not to spare me: listen to me” (69). Although this evidence provides that Frankenstein is the true monster, the latter information in chapters 11 and 12 prove that the monster created had no intention of evil doings. The monster had been born into the world without any knowledge or teachings from his creator. Even so, he learns to be caring and nurturing to a family he comes across, and all he hope to do for that family was to “restore happiness to these deserving people” (81). Frankenstein and all of society believe that the monster is a demon cast upon the world. The sad part of this view on the monster is the fact that the monster feels the same way. When faced with his own reflection, the monster could not believe how horrid he appeared. “At first I started back, unable to believe that it was indeed I who was reflected in the mirror; and when I became fully convince that I was in reality the monster that I am, I was filled with the bitterest sensations of despondence and mortification”’ (80).

Side: Victor Frankenstein
2 points

I believe that Victor Frankenstein is the real monster, or antagonist, in this novel. During the creation of the monster, Frankenstein completely neglects his friends and family. Frankenstein is entirely focused and only concerned with his creation, but even after the monster awakens, he flees from it. This shows that Frankenstein is very selfish and only cares for himself. He puts all of his time and effort into creating a new life and after he creates it, he is terrified and wants to destroy him. Since the “birth” of the monster is written from Victor Frankenstein’s perspective, it is hard for the reader to empathize with the monster. The reader also sees the monstrous actions of the monster and assumes that the monster is a merciless and cruel being. After the death of his brother William, Frankenstein realizes that his creation was the murderer. He also comes to the conclusion that it was his fault. Frankenstein is such a coward that he is unable to admit to his family and friends that he is the true murderer. In Chapter 10, Frankenstein wakes up with feelings of desolation and misery, so he decides to travel to a summit, hoping that his feelings will subside. “They elevated me from littleness of feelings; and although they did not remove my grief, they subdued and tranquillised it” (66).

Side: Victor Frankenstein
2 points

Frankenstein's creation is clearly the monster, and Frankenstein is just a scared little sissy who thought he could play God and create life. That blew up in his face, and this novel is about him dealing with his mistake. Even the monster admits that he is a monster "I became fully convinced that I was in reality the monster that I am (80)." True, ordinary people can do monstrous things, but Frankenstein messed up one time. The rest of the time he is just a normal person. Yes, he is a weak person. Yes, what he did was wrong. But he has more than paid for it in my opinion. Just like Prometheus had to deal with an eternity of liver-torture for just giving man one little fire, Frankenstein is being tortured by having EVERYONE he loves and cares about tormented and killed. And guess who's doing it? That's right. The REAL monster. Although he certainly has feelings, and was not always bad, he has been made into what could only be called a monster, both in looks (he blows Victor away in that department) and in the monstrosity of what his actions (he kills a kid AND maliciously plans it so an innocent girl will get blamed. That's truly evil.) Just think about it this way. Which one would you rather find in your closet?

Side: Victor Frankenstein
Jane(9) Clarified
1 point

I just realized that I didn't say this. I think Victor Frankenstein is the non-monster AND the protagonist. Although Chapters 10-12 focus on what's going on with the monster, overall Victor is the one who we follow for pretty much the whole book and we only "zoom in" on the monster from page 71 to 105. Is this really enough to dub the monster the protagonist or main character when the focus is almost entirely on Victor the rest of the time?

Side: Victor Frankenstein
1 point

I believe Victor Frankenstein is the antagonist, not the protagonist. He was the instigator of all the mishaps so far in the story. "The wretch, the filthy demon to whom [Frankenstein] had given life" was "the murderer of [his]brother" (p. 116). Justine was convicted of a murder she did not commit because Frankenstein created a monster capable of killing that no one else knew of. Victor could only "spend vain sorrow upon the graves of William and Justine, the first hapless victims to [his] unhallowed arts" (p. 137). He even admits it was his fault they died. Frankenstein left the monster to his own devices where people "attacked [the monster], until grievously bruised by stones and many other kinds of missile weapons, [he] escaped to the open country" (p.164). Frankenstein's abandonment of his creation was the root of his problems. The monster had no one to look after and care for him, so he was left for the world to cast out and mistreat. This turned him into someone out for revenge.

Side: Victor Frankenstein
1 point

Victor Frankenstein is the protagonist of Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein. He is the character that the audience can most emphasize with Frankenstein. He suffers the loss that humans can relate to. Frankenstein says on page 49, “Yet, as I drew nearer home, grief and fear again overcame me.” It is here he talks of the loss he feels after losing his brother due to his own mistake of creating the monster. The reader understands the grief that Frankenstein feels after losing someone. Everyone has lost someone before. Not only that, everyone has made a mistake that affects others, “the filthy daemon to whom I had given life. What did he do there? Could he be (I shuddered at the conception) the murder of my brother?”(pg. 50). The thought of making the mistake that affects another has happened to many of us. I have caused problems before that have resulted in it inconveniencing others besides me. Frankenstein displays the grief and the thoughts any other human would in his situation and reacts in the same way.

Side: Victor Frankenstein
1 point

I believe that Victor Frankenstein is the true antagonist of chapters 10-12. Upon finding the monster, Frankenstein has malicious intentions. The monster pleads with Victor to make him a kind being. The monster is calm when Victor "sprang on him, impelled by all the feelings which can arm one being against the existence of another" (pg 68). The monster admits to have suffered and Frankenstein simply wants to increase his misery. The monster enlightens the reader with Victor's intentions when he tells Victor that he, his "creator, detest and spurn [him], thy creature, to whom [he] is bound by ties only dissoluble by the annihilation of one of [them]. [His] purpose to kill [him]"(68). Therefore, the monster is saying that Victor cannot get rid of him, unless he kills him. However, the monster only wishes to change for the better. Victor is caught up with his emotions and becomes the true monster.

Side: Victor Frankenstein
1 point

I think that Victor Frankenstein is the antagonist of the story, not the protagonist. Though he seems to be the protagonist because of his main role in telling the story, he is truly the antagonist for his battles with the so-called monster he created. He feels the monster is something terrible and spends most of his time trying to stay away from it and neglect his one simple want. Frankenstein is by no means the protagonist in his own tale because he only tries to save himself and better his own life. He cares not about even hearing the one request the monster had. He doesn't wish to listen to the monster only saying "Begone!...There can be no community between you and me; we are enemies." Frankenstein does not care that he devoted a long time to creating this being, only that when he abandoned it, it turned violent.

Side: Victor Frankenstein
1 point

I believe Frankenstein is the actual protagonist in this novel. Frankenstein’s ambition, quoted on page 32, was “to bestow animation upon lifeless matter…renew life where death had apparently devoted the body to corruption.” Victor did not plot to design a murderer; his creation decided that it was his duty to avenge against his creator because of his appearance- for example: during a particular situation, when the monster entered a man’s hut, the man “shrieked loudly and quitting the hut, ran across the fields with a speed of which his debilitated form hardly appeared capable.” Due to society’s unfamiliarity with the monster’s exterior, the monster could not find a companion whom he could relate with therefore he became miserable and lonely which lead to blaming Frankenstein for his solitude. Nevertheless, strangling innocent people in order to hurt Victor due to society’s intolerance of him was not Victor’s responsibilities but was the responsibility of the community and their narrow-mindedness.

Side: Victor Frankenstein
1 point

I believe that Victor Frankenstein is the protagonist of this story because he does not purposefully and calculatingly make his creation's life miserable and he feels remorse for what he has done. He created Frankenstein, yes, but he failed to ever murder anyone or commit any great evil. It is his story primarily that we are privy to, and the reader most easily identifies with him and his sense of intense regret that "had desolated [Victor's] heart, and filled it forever with the bitterest remorse" (120). The monster is the one who continually makes Victor's life miserable by killing all those closest to him under his own free will. The death of Henry causes Victor to report back to Walton that "The human frame could no longer support the agonies that I endured, and I was carried out of the room in strong convulsions" (pg 129). Victor suffers greatly because of one mistake and "Frankenstein" as a whole focuses on Victor's suffering because of this one mistake.

Side: Victor Frankenstein
1 point

Furthermore, I believe that the monster is the antagonist. The monster purposefully and knowingly committed multiple acts of extreme violence. Unlike Victor who made a one time mistake, the monster kills someone on three separate occasions and also is the reason a fourth was killed. To err is human, but to kill in cold blood is pure evil. Perhaps Frankenstein is a weak protagonist, but the monster is certainly the definition of an evil antagonist. He repeatedly attempts to make Frankenstein's life as miserable as possible and makes it clear that he has no qualms about it stating, "'Remember that I have power; you believe yourself miserable, but I can make you so wretched that the light of day will be hateful to you. You are my creator, but I am your master - obey!'" (pg 122). This obvious moral inferiority, lack of compassion for others, and constant antagonization of Victor makes the monster the antagonist rather than the protagonist.

Side: Victor Frankenstein
Jane(9) Disputed
1 point

I don't necessarily think that the monster is morally inferior to Frankenstein who, we must remember, creates the monster just because he wants "a new species to bless him as its creator and source." (32) and then curses and abandons his creation. He is contemptible. The monster on the other hand demonstrates true morality and compassion in its early innocence when he hopes “it might be in [his] power to restore happiness to these deserving people (the De Laceys)” (81). This naturally good being just wants to be "known and loved" (94). When this love and affection is vehemently denied him again and again by everyone he meets, it drives him mad, and we see the true monster emerge, the one that kills children and crushes hopes and dreams and haunts your nightmares. It's a being fallen from morality into depravity (Woohoo Paradise Lost). But yes, he is a monster. He just wasn't always that way.

Side: Victor Frankenstein
1 point

Victor Frankenstein is the antagonist of the book. Primarily because he created the monster in the first place. The moment he sparked life in the chest of the monster, he brought the deaths of william, Justine, Henry and elizabeth on his head. He is guilty as the master mind behind the monsters creation. Frankenstein was also quite a frazzled and irrational man. He spent months at a time in bed or ill after the slightest trauma. On pages 68-70 the monster displays a cool and even demeanor. This is because he has studied and developed himself by himself and has done his think for himself. However, Victor "shudder to reflect" on the origin of the monster shows how ignorant and self centered he is. He worries about himself and his life and protecting the knowledge he has gained from other people. He wants it all to himself. Yet by doing so he consumes himself with hatred toward the "devil" he has created. He is guilty for killing all of those people

Side: Victor Frankenstein
3 points

While many people would disagree, I believe that the protagonist of Frankenstein is the monster. The monster embarks on a journey of discovery. Although the monster was created out of evil, the monster was never taught those ways. He was in awe of all that the world has to offer, things such as berries, fire, the moon, and books. He continued to try and find a new home, but along the way he was chased out of a town because of his appearance. However, when he resided in the kennel he noticed a family that expressed emotions that he had never witnessed before. “I beheld a young creature, with a pail on her head, passing before my hovel. The girl was young and of gentle demeanor, unlike what I have since found” (74-75). Curious, the monster, continued to observe the De Lacey family. He noticed that they were not entirely happy, due to “poverty” (77). The good hearted being decided to help the family, “and during the night [the monster] often took [the boy’s] tools, the use of which [the monster] quickly discovered, and brought home firing sufficient for the consumption of several days” (78). While the monster’s continued help with labors around the cottage aided the De Lacey’s he noticed that the family was still unhappy. Although the monster wanted to come out and meet the family, he knew they would not take to his appearance. He thought that no one would be expected to love him when he did not even love himself. For when he saw his reflection for the first time, he saw that “in reality the monster [he] was” (80). So instead of ambushing the De Lacey’s, the monster decided to learn their language so that he could help. He thought “it might be in [his] power to restore happiness to these deserving people” (81). The monster escaped Frankenstein’s greed, and found love and friendship in the De Lacey family.

Side: Monster
Jane(9) Disputed
1 point

Although it is clear from the text evidence you present that the Frankenstein's creation is of a naturally gentle and kind disposition, I must disagree with your assertion that he is not a monster. It's true, he innocently seeks "love and friendship" from the De Lacey family. He does hope that “it might be in [his] power to restore happiness to these deserving people” (81). But after their rejection of him "hatred and revenge" fill his bosom (99) and when he kills a child and claps his hands in "hellish triumph" (102) one cannot possibly think of him but as a monster. Maybe he wasn't born a monster, but he has been made into one by humanity's rejection of him.

Side: Victor Frankenstein
1 point

I believe that the monster is the true protagonist in this novel. The reader sees the monster as a vile creature throughout the first half of the book because it is all described through Frankenstein’s eyes. In Chapter 11, the monster becomes the narrator and it is clear that he is not just some mindless murderer. The monster describes to Frankenstein the state of confusion he was in when he was created. “It was dark when I awoke; I felt cold also, and half frightened, as it were, instinctively, finding myself so desolate” (71). In Chapter 12, the monster tells the readers about his encounters with humans. They often flee at the sight of his hideousness. He describes a feeling of true guilt from stealing food from a poor family. “[He] saw no cause for their unhappiness; but [he] was deeply affected by it” and he decided to gather wood and leave at their doorstep (77). The monster shows compassion unlike Frankenstein. One is also able to see that the monster has a true longing for family when he becomes attached toward the man and woman he watches. I believe he is innocent and is very misunderstood.

Side: Monster
1 point

Although it may seem that Dr. Frankenstein is the protagonist, the protagonist is the monster. He is the good guy of this section of text. The monster "had been accustomed, during the night, to steal a part of their store for my own consumption, but when I found that in doing this I inflicted pain on the cottagers, I abstained and satisfied myself with berries, nuts, and roots" (p. 172). The monster was new to the world and knew nothing of it, but he was compassionate and caring. It was the mistreatment of his creator that led him to murder a young boy. Frankenstein abandoned the monster creating problems for himself; it was not the monster's fault Frankenstein had bad things happen in his life.

Side: Monster
1 point

The monster of Frankenstein is misunderstood like many of us. He had started off loving humanity in general, but grew miserable upon the realization of the cruelty of humanity “ ‘ Believe me, Frankenstein: I was benevolent; my soul glowed with love and humanity; but I am not alone, miserably alone?’”(pg.69) . People have been judged many times in life. Whether or not you have realized it the words and the actions you display affect the others around you. The monster is the protagonist. The reader has felt the emotions of loneliness and abandonment before. The monster also has the progression of understanding which each of us has had before. When we grow up we each eventually learnt to understand the words and actions of those around us. This is what happens to the monster as he inhabits the hovel “My thoughts now became more active, and I longed to discover the motives and feelings of these lovely creatures”(pg.80). It is hard to ignore the curiosity the monster has much like that of an infant.

Side: Monster
1 point

I believe that the monster that Victor Frankenstein created is the protagonist of chapters 10-12. Although it is unexpected, Shelly makes the monster an intelligent, sympathetic creature. The monster tells Victor that he is a "fallen angel, whom thou drivest from joy for no misdeed. Everywhere I see bliss, from which I alone am irrevocably excluded. I was benevolent and good; misery made me a fiend. Make me happy, and I shall again be virtuous" (pg. 69). The monster murders as a result of the hatred Victor feels towards him, the fear society has, and the fact that he is banished. The monster is not the true villain because he is merely Victor's creation and his character is molded from society's corrupt ways. He wishes to enjoy life, and stop the torment he has caused. Victor has the power to change things but he is filled with hatred and only wishes to kill the monster.

Side: Monster
1 point

The human Frankenstein creates is the protagonist of this story. He is what Frankenstein calls a “monster” though he is truly a misunderstood creature whose father/creator abandons him. He does not mean to do the terrible things he does, like murder and framing another. He is a creature who people cower from because they refuse to accept him simply due to his looks. The creature states that his soul “glowed with love and humanity.” He did not mean to do the terrible things he had done, he simply had no other means of getting his point across because no one would give him the chance. He works hard to get people to accept him, including his creator, but his is unable because he looks so different from everyone else. Frankenstein set this “monster” up for failure by abandoning him.

Side: Monster
1 point

I think that the monster is the protagonist of this story. He has not done anything wrong that we know of so far. It is not his fault that his looks are frightening or that people judge him to be a monster when really he is a kind-hearted, innocent being. He does not want to harm anyone. Trying to survive, he steals some of the cottagers food. However, later on he realizes that this inflicted pain on them so he stopped. "When I found that in doing this I inflicted pain on the cottagers, I abstained, and satisfied myself with berries, nuts, and roots, which I gathered from a neighboring wood." When the monster realizes that the young man, Felix, spends a lot of time gathering wood to make fire, he decides to help out. "I found that they spent a great part of each day in collecting wood for the family fire; and, during the night I often took his tools, the use of which I quickly discovered, and brought home firing sufficient for the consumption of several days." This was very kind of the monster to help the family out even though he didn't really know them. The monster is the protagonist.

Side: Monster
1 point

I think that the antagonist in this story is Victor Frankenstein. He is irresponsible and inconsiderate. He created a monster and then abandoned it to run freely. This is extremely irresponsible because, at this point, he does not know what the monster is capable of. He is afraid of it, so he runs away, freeing it to scare other people. He also doesn't take care of the being. He created life and left it to fend for itself. This is similar to having a baby and then leaving it on the street to fend for itself. "Remember, that I am thy creature; I ought to be thy Adam, but I am rather the fallen angel, whom thou drivest from joy for no misdeed." exclaims the monster to Frankenstein. "Believe me, Frankenstein: I was benevolent; my soul glowed with love and humanity; but am I not alone, miserably alone?? You, my creator, abhor me; what hope can I gather from your fellow-creatures, who owe me nothing?" The monster is deeply upset about how his life has turned out, and it is all Frankenstein's fault for creating him.

Side: Monster
1 point

I believe that the protagonist in the book is the monster. I think this because he tries to be a good person even though he hits a few speed bumps along the way. For example in chapter 10 the monster says, "do your duty to me and I will do mine to you and the rest of mankind." in saying this you can see that the monster is trying to do what is right, he just needs a little help.

Side: Monster
1 point

I do not believe that Victor Frankenstein is the protagonist in the book. Victor does not have any consideration toward this "monster" that he created. The reader can clearly see this in chapter 10 when the monster speaks to Victor and says "Remember, thou hast made me more powerful than myself...Remember, I am thy creature...whom thou drivest from joy for no misdeed". This makes Frankenstein look like the "bad guy" for putting his creature through so much pain and sadness.

Side: Monster
1 point

I believe that the monster is the protagonist because he is more of a human being than any of the characters. He feels more and has more emotions. His emotions are shown when he collects wood for the poverty filled people at the cottage. Also he realizes that he is ugly, so he doesn’t want to be like the other people when they judge about what they see; he has an open mind and doesn’t judge appearances. Also the monster realizes when he sees his reflection that he suffers since birth, like he is cursed. Unlike the rest of the people, they create their own downfall by making mistakes. Therefore the monster shows that he is a bigger person and doesn’t follow what society does. Page 78 “I found that in doing this I inflicted pain on the cottagers, I abstained, and satisfied myself with berries, buts, and roots, which I gathered from a neighboring wood”. Page 78 “I was enabled to assist their labours. I found that the youth spent a great part of each day in collecting wood for the family fire; and during the night I often took his tools, the use of which I quickly discovered, and brought home firing sufficient for the consumption of several days”.

Side: Monster
1 point

I believe that the antagonist of the novel is Victor Frankenstein because he blames the monster for ruining his life and all the hate and depression he experiences. But actually he himself is the one that ruins his life for he created the monster and doesn't show any respect towards it. Page 68, "Devil", I exclaimed, "do you dare approach me?"

Side: Monster
1 point

In this section the monster appears to be the protagonist. While viewing an emotional moment that is expressed through the brother and sister of the cottage, the monster possesses sympathy for them. “The young man and his companion often went apart, and appeared to weep. I saw no cause for their unhappiness; but I was deeply affected by it.”(pg. 77) This indicates that the monster cares for others’ well beings as well as his. However, Frankenstein dismissed the monster for selfish reasons, to protect his security. Nevertheless, at this point in time, Frankenstein did not realize the power the monster had to hurt him and others that he cared about.

Side: Monster
1 point

I have reason to believe that the monster is the protagonist in this story of Frankenstein. Although Victor had created the monster to be something beautiful, it did not turn out that way. The monster became something hideous in the eyes of Victor. However, the monster was rational with his feelings. He had educated himself about the basic and good fundamentals of life. On page 68 Victor calls the monster a "devil" and one who would incur his wrath. The monster says that he "expected this reception" from Victor. He scold Victor asking "How dare you thus sport with life?" pg 68. The monster identifies himself as a "fallen angel". One who was made by man and is lower than man. The monster is right to bring vengeance against Victor. He is left to be alone. He is left in complete isolation with none to feel the way that he feels. Yet, he reads and understands with such a sound rationale that Victor does not have for himself.

Side: Monster