Yes, it can help you get a good-paying job (also look at my arguments of student loans for some reasons why this may not pay off...) but also in many cases college doesn't help you become yourself. If you THINK you want a career in medical and then you get over 25K in loans and spend all your college savings of going to college for that, your practically forced into being medical even if it turns out you don't really like it. College isn't for learning WHAT you want to do. It's more like it's deciding what you are going to do. AND, you can learn a lot about yourself doing things outside of school.
School MAY help you establish independence, but it is not guaranteed to. IN school, teacher help you, you can find support with your friends, your parents still pay the bills, finance mostly everything, s=drive you there ( or you take the bus most of the time unless yur a senior/driver), etc etc. There is much more independence to be gained from getting your own job, paying your own bills, and learning things for yourself without the complete hepl of your teacher, friends, parents, etc. Also, there are plenty of skills you can get from things like an apprenticeship, internship, or the military out-of-school.
Alright, that's nice, but really? You are inspired, sure but that doesn't mean you'll do anything. When I was 6 I was inspired to find a dragon egg in the forest near my house, which a. will never happen, and 2 will be given up on very soon. And that's only for some people, others may hate school and want to leave every second. How is that inspirational? This is very much an opinion.
Yes, but a lot of that money you get from this 'good paying job' goes into your student loans, and these jobs you can keep your whole life as well. TO top that off, whose to say you can't make even more/a bunch more money than this with raises, etc. There are many chances for an equal paying job not going to HS/College as going to HS/COllege
Student loans are after you pay your saved money, and they can be around 25k. You'd have to be in a prettty rich family if you had no student loans or get an insanely good job, both of which are very rare. Also, it's not just student loans you ahve to pay when you get out of school. Acount for medical bills, a family (maybe), a house, taxes, a car, etc, then you have the leftover for other expenses and then student loans due on top of that. It's not "easier and faster than you think."
It takes hard work to get this said successful job and that also depends on your degree and career choice, etc. Also, if you have a bunch of student loans from working hard and taking years of college to get this "successful job" (which may also be competitive to get the job) it may be a while before you get a car/house, or you'll be drowning in debt you can't keep up with even with your good job if you get loans for house, car, etc. (Especially is you get fired, have kids, medical bills, etc etc et)
For some people, it may be hard to make friends in school, and not all people have opportunities to do school sports. It may because they simply don't have a ride or because they don't have time counting homework. And even in some cases, the school doesn't have a team for sports/many sports or options to help you juggle schoolwork and sports.
You only do thing out of school if you try, sign up, and get to do those things in school. Just because you go to school you are guaranteed to learn things or be able to do more things. In some cases going to college does not get you a good job, and it could turn out bad if you don't do well. It is no guarantee.
Claim 3: There are many alternative to HS/College
Starting a business: There are 27.9 million small business owners in the U.S. It's easier than ever to start a small business, and all you need is a computer and internet if you want to do it from home
Apprenticeship/fellowship: Apprenticeships offer the opportunity to learn a trade in an in-demand field. And unlike many internships, you get paid. Fellowships offer a select few people a bunch of money to skip college and pursue a business idea, and be mentored by the world's top scientists, researchers, and business leaders. (Only 20 or so people per program.)
Military:Competitive salary, free health care and little-to-no living costs. The military will pay your tuition while in service. Soldiers have access to a variety of online learning options. Once your service is complete, you can also use the GI Bill to pay for part of your tuition. They also offer retirement with benefits after 20 years of service.
Claim 2: There are still many good jobs you can get
Without graduating HS or college you can get good paying jobs like...:
Carpenter - Median annual pay: $36,900.
General manager, restaurant - Median annual pay is $43,900.
Automotive service technician (mechanic)- Median annual pay is $35,600.
1st Claim: Don't have to worry about student loans.
Student loans on average are about $18k to $27k that you have to pay. This number can be more or less.
This will greatly take out of your pay before you pay off all then loans, and can effect your credit score if you don't pay on time.
This can also effect you psychologically, in the link I found that “In a survey of more than 1,000 student loan borrowers, we dug deep on the psychological effects of debt — specifically, student loan debt. More than 61 percent of respondents said they fear their student loan debt worries are spiraling out of control — and more than 70 percent reported suffering from headaches due to the stress of it.”
No. On a simple google search that took 10 seconds I found that the average price for college is $34,740 at private colleges, $9,970 for state residents at public colleges, and $25,620 for out-of-state residents attending public universities. Of course this can be much more, but that would also leave you with a crap ton of student loans. Average price of a home is $188,900. This is an AVERAGE house, not counting the whole list of things you explained. In my argument for the "Yes It Is" side, I explain median salaries. Of course your not getting a salary like the ones I've listen for high school+college grads without effort, but I don't think your getting ALL of these things you've listed here and still being able to live a comfortable life (with money for retirement, children [not saying you are going to or have to have children], car, etc) without a well-paying job. AND, the government/banks are not going to loan you enough money to get all of that if you don't have a good salary. Maybe in the long run you could get all these things, but that means earning money, most likely good money to live a comfortable life until that point where you can get/have all of this. As I've said, there ARE opportunities for good jobs without HS/College, but with that comes a lot of hard work and effort.
Not necessarily. There are many people who you all probably know that didn't go to high school or college and were very successful in like/ got a good job. This can include people like Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, the list goes on. It is not necessarily a NEED, it's more like an increase in your chances. Of course, an extremely slim amount of people are going to be million/billionaires if we don't go to college/high school, but you get the gist of what I'm trying to say. None of this is possible without dedication and hard work, but that's just a whole other story to this debate.
You CAN become an athlete straight out of high school, but it really isn't that easy. I did a quick google search and professional sports teams usually notice players in college sports. If you really want a professional athletic career, college is a very good option for you that can help you in the long run A LOT. Of course talent comes into play, but college also simply increases your chances and gets you noticed.
a. People honestly don't judge you as much as you think they may. And if it really shouldn't matter so much that they are judging, as long as your doing your best. Yes, the work is boring, but that is no reason why school isn't worth it. Everything in life has something boring you need to get through to get to the good at some point. School is simply no different and just has a few longer boring aspects to work through. Not saying school isn't boring (because it absolutely is), I'm just saying that I disagree for that beign a reason why school 'isn't worth it'.
You have not yet given one reason in that why high school isn't worth it. Of course it's boring at points and tedious, but think about long run. "I dropped out because I didn't care" isn't really that valid of a reason. If everyone did that, economy would be horrible. It would help if you gave a factual reason for your side for me and others to understand more than you didn't care about your dropout and school.
Two reasons for school being worth it:
1. Salary
There are of course opportunities to make lots of money without either high-school/college, but the chances are very slim. Median weekly earnings without completing high school are about $493, which adds up to about $25, 636 a year. Try counting in retirement, car, house, a phone, and so much more into that equation and that's really not a lot of money. Going to high school on average earns you $678 a week. Annual is about $35,256. Just with high school you make $10k more a year. If you go to college and don’t get a degree, you get $738 per week, $38,376 per year. With an associate degree $41,496 annually. Bachelor’s degree $59,124 annually. (All of these are averages. You will likely make more/less.) It only gets better from there, and I'd much rather $59k than $25k.
2. A better education is scientifically related to better health and/or a longer life.
In the United States, each additional year of education reduces the risk of death in the next decade by 3.6 percent.
In Sweden, research has shown that the risk of bad health is lowered by over 18 percent with an another year of education
(Information from https://www.elc-pa.org/wp-content/
Obviously, there are many more benefits, but these are some very strong ones that make me side with school being worth it.
