Is Mormonism a Satanic religion in disguise?
Some of my mormon friends said that they believe that when they die they will become god or goddesses like God. I recall the bible saying that the angel Lucifer, or the Devil, was cast from heaven because he attempted to take God's power and be God. Therefore, doesn't this make their religion satanic?
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Exultation is a Mormon belief. My mormon friends explained that they believe that upon death they will become like God as a god or goddess. The Bible states that Lucifer, the Devil, was cast from heaven because he attempted to take God's power and be God. Therefore I believe their religion to be satanic. And the angel "Moroni" that Joseph Smith claimed to see may have been the devil in disguise. Side: yes
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I think, if nothing else, you're grossly oversimplifying one entire religion in order to reconcile it with, well, another one. I'm not an apologist for any religion, but I believe the principle you're referring can better be interpreted as saying (and I'll state up front that I could be completely butchering this, but it's my understanding): God is a continuously evolving concept, as are we. What we are now, God once was, and what God is now, we as humans will one day be. It's not a very hard concept to accept, really, especially if anything can be accepted on mere faith, and you believe that we were made in God's image. That is, if religion is your thing to begin with. Not to mention, how is it much different than a Christian believing that when they die, they're going to a perfect world beyond this one to hang out with Jesus and Mark Twain and Grandma Rosie and play golf with God on Wednesdays? (I think that's how it goes, anyway, it's admittedly been a while since I opened a bible...) But satanic? Hardly. That's quite a stretch. Side: No
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But I have abandoned religion. I am free of its mental slavery. I believe that God himself, as he is accepted by the majority of religions, to be corrupt and evil and no better than the devil. If someone doesn't involve themselves, then they are just as guilty as those who do the crime. Meaning if I witness a crime, like a girl being kidnapped, and do nothing, I am no better or less guilty than the one who committed the crime. In this way God is guilty himself. Side: Yes
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I agree with the expressed sentiment that one can not judge another religion by the doctrinal foundations of another religion, and I wouldn't quite see the point if the judge is admittedly non-religious. Even so, I think "mainstream" Christianity would classify Mormonism as "Satanic," as they classify all faiths other than Christianity to be the work and refuge of Satan. That's not even to mention that many Christian sects believe other Christian sects to be Satanic systems as well. For example, the Missouri Synod Lutherans (and many other denominations of Protestantism) believe the Pope is the Anti-Christ and the Roman Catholic Church is a Satanic institution. http://www.lcms.org/pages/ To me, the word "Satanic" means nothing, and so I believe that Mormonism is not objectively Satanic. I think the only usage of the word "Satanic" I would endorse is the professed religion of Satanism. Objectively, Satanism is a Satanic religion. However, I do endorse the word "evil," which I know many atheists do not, and I have no problem with poetic or metaphorical references to the demonic, as in the following paragraph from Thomas Paine's "The Age of Reason." "Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and torturous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness, with which more than half the Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we called it the word of a demon, than the Word of God. It is a history of wickedness, that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind; and, for my own part, I sincerely detest it, as I detest everything that is cruel." In sum, if we are to allow the Satanic label into the religious discourse, we must decide what it means to be Satanic, whose definition to adopt, which groups to label, etc. By the standard I addressed above, Hinduism, Buddhism, Islam, Paganism, Wicca, Jainism, Sikhism, and the rest would be "Satanic religions in disguise" because they lead the lost away from salvation. To me, the discussion seems a fruitless one. Side: No
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It is a crazy religion, but I don't think it's Satanic. Calling it such is evaluating it on the basis of another religion. Christianity itself is in opposition to the 10 Commandments. Remember that first one: "Thou shalt have no other Gods before me"? What is Jesus if not another God? Granted, they (Christian leaders) have worked very hard to convince us that Jesus is God and this makes it ok, but you would think that God would have pointed this out when making his commandments. "You can't have any other Gods, unless one day I send myself/my son down, in which case, that's ok, but nothing else!" When it comes to judging religions, I choose not to judge them based on the religions from which they are based, because they are obviously an off-shoot of that religion, attempting to diverge in several ways. I just assume that the contradiction is one area in which they have diverged. Side: No
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I was raised a Catholic, and now am mostly an athiest. I can see your point, but I was merely referencing the Biblical knowledge that all my religous friends say I don't credit. I have another argument from the Bible though, that Adam and Eve were told not to eat from the tree of knowledge, and they ate from it and gained God's knowledge abilities, something he forbid. Therefore it makes no sense that when a person dies they would become like God. Side: yes
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On the contrary, the tree of knowledge actually points to a reason they would become like God. Because, in essence, wasn't that why Adam and Eve were forbidden from eating from the tree of knowledge? Because through eating from it they gained God's knowledge and became too much like God? Side: No
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First off, if you do some research on Lucifer, you'll find out that when they were assembling the testaments of the bible, there was actually a testament about Lucifer that was stricken from the record because one christian group was throwing slander and lies on another christian group. Basically, they said that Lucifer was the devil and they were apparently a lot louder than the guys who worshiped Lucifer as the angel he was supposed to be. Secondly, Mormons don't believe they're taking any power from god, but their expanded background on the whole situation is that at one point our god had a god who had a god and so on and etc. The whole thing is that if you're really good that our god will give you your own world or something like that. I mean, I'm not atheist, but I live in Utah with these people. It's not satanic, it's just different. But I guess people don't understand different, they just hate it. Whatever, hate what you want. Edit: JakeJ is probably going to mop the floor with you on this debate. Side: No
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Uh. Never. See that's one of the problems with people. Everyone goes off of stereotypes and starts bragging about how much better they are than others based off of those stereotypes. If they honestly tried converting me every day maybe I'd feel the same sentiment as you, but I have a more open mind and don't classify people by how they're slandered. Mormonism is Mormonism and if they don't think they're satanic, they literally can't be. It's a belief system. You can spray it and label it however you want but if they don't worship Satan or think their actions are blasphemy, then they aren't. It's that simple. Literally. People like you embarrass people like me. Because even if I'm an atheist or agnostic, when people see people like you and then hear about me, they instantly think I'm someone like you. Stop making me look bad. Side: No
I don't know, is the Easter Bunny just Santa Clause in disguise? satan and god both know I can go on all day about how incredibly silly the whole mess is, but I think it's unfair to pick on one individual religion, I mean for example, I love these Christians who laugh at these Scientologists for believing they're aliens or whatever, the while drinking the blood of a guy who was born from a virgin and rose from the dead... I mean wtf is going on here? The fact is, no one religion has a monopoly on crazy. lmao, I mean, Christians pretend they're cannibals every Sunday, and wear a depiction of a guy being tortured and killed, you can't get much more satanic than that I think. Side: No
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