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 People who believe GOD is because their life is happy and sucessful. (35)

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People who believe GOD is because their life is happy and sucessful.

People who believe GOD is because their life is happy and sucessful.

Apologetist usualy come from happy,satisfied ,and educated persona !

They try to convince you that GOD loves everyone ! and you will have peaceful and happy life....

how about those people who suffers for all life long ? no jobs,uneducated ,and miserable ?

what's direct evidence that showing GOD really exists ?

crimal people who never caught by lawforce and also enjoy happiness life till death ! where is god's justice ? 

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God's justice happens after life, and is up to whether we have faith or not in Jesus' blood being the sacrifice once and for all.

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I know lots of people who lost relatives or loved ones, I know christian africans, who are worshipping God, even tho they live in a place where there is war.

I know homeless kids who all go to church every sunday.

I wouldn't say only succesful people are christian.

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People who believe GOD is because their life is happy and successful.

Apologist usually come from happy,satisfied ,and educated persona !

They try to convince you that GOD loves everyone ! and you will have peaceful and happy life....

how about those people who suffers for all life long ? no jobs,uneducated ,and miserable ?

what's direct evidence that showing GOD really exists ?

criminal people who never caught by law force and also enjoy happiness life till death ! where is god's justice ?

Actually..., I become more and more religious as my life gets worse and worse. Like..., for example..., when I'm in trouble..., I pray. Another example is..., people in jail reading bibles. ;)

aru37456(65) Disputed
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That's because people scare of death and suffering...so they run into a shelter !

it is psychologically explained.

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People who believe GOD is because their life is happy and sucessful.

Bullshit. Gimmie a source.

Apologetist usualy come from happy,satisfied ,and educated persona !

How, and source?

They try to convince you that GOD loves everyone ! and you will have peaceful and happy life....

An atheist can't have a peaceful and happy life?

how about those people who suffers for all life long ? no jobs,uneducated ,and miserable ?

What?

what's direct evidence that showing GOD really exists ?

There is no evidence for God's existence, hence faith.

crimal people who never caught by lawforce and also enjoy happiness life till death ! where is god's justice ?

What?

aru37456(65) Disputed
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1. check on resources on-line,and you shall see !

2. do you know those pastor,priest,Christian leader are so rich ?

3.atheist usually hate GOD.

4.GOD doesn't intervene to those poor people ! see on news!

5.faith is myth !

6. good people do not have good karma,bad people do not get punishment .

Cynical(1943) Disputed
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check on resources online,and you shall see !

No, give me a source.

do you know those pastor,priest,christian leader are so rich ?

I doubt the majority of theist authority figures are rich, so no.

atheist usually hate GOD.

How does an atheist hate something they believe doesn't exist?

GOD doesn't intervene to those poor people ! see on news!

Yep. If God exists, God is a prick.

faith is myth !

This makes no sense. All theists have faith, as there is no evidence to support their position.

good people do not have good karma,bad people do not get punishment .

What?

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My life is hardly easy, and FULL of disappointments...merely because I still struggle with worldly views on a lot of things. I believe God gave us an instruction manual for this world. The bible is God's inspired word to us. It warns not to get caught up in "the world" It will burn us every time. We just have to stay strong and fight the good fight of Faith with the map God has provided us. There is a lot of encouragement inside this collection of books/letters. IE: Paul's letters are quite simple. Simplistic seems to be key. God's wisdom is far superior to anything here on Earth.

NLT - 1 Cor. Ch 1 v. 18-31:

18 The message of the cross in foolish to those who are headed for destruction! But we who are being saved know it is the very power of God. 19 As the Scriptures say, "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise and discard the intelligence of the intelligent."

20 So where does this leave the philosophers, the scholars, and the world's brilliant debaters? God has made the wisdom of this world look foolish. 21 Since God in his wisdom saw to it that the world would never know him through human wisdom, he has used our foolish preaching to save those who believe. 22 It is foolish to the Jews, who ask for signs from heaven. And it is foolish to the Greeks, who seek human wisdom. 23 So when we preach that Christ was crucified, the Jews are offended and the Gentiles say it's all nonsense.

24 But to those called by God to salvation, both Jews and Gentiles, Christ is the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25 This foolish plan of God is wiser than the wisest of human plans, and God's weakness is stronger than the greatest of human strength.

26 Remember dear, brothers and sisters, that few of you were wise in the world's eyes or powerful or wealthy when God called you. 27 Instead, God chose things the world considers foolish in order to shame those who think they are wise. And he chose things the world considers foolish in order to shame those who think they are wise. And he chose things that are powerless to shame those who are powerful. 28 God chose things despised by the world, things counted as nothing at all, and used them to bring to nothing what the world considers important. 29 As a result, no one can ever boast in the presence of God.

30 God has united you with Christ Jesus. For our benefit God made him to be wisdom itself. Christ made us right with God; he made us pure and holy, and he freed us from sin. 31 Therefore, as the Scriptures say, "If you want to boast, boast only about the Lord."

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Just as there is no direct evidence for ANY religion, it takes FAITH. I also encapsulate evolutionism inside the realm of religions. It takes Faith just the same, whether it be in God creating everything, or in nothing creating everything.

aru37456(65) Disputed
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You are wrong !

nothingness can't create anything !

nothing means no space and no time no physics or chemistry...

kjgallmeyer(22) Disputed
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Isn't that what the evolutionist tries to say happened long ago and far away? Nothing created everything we see. I think its bologna! I believe in God Almighty the Creator of all things!

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I would say the opposite. people who believe in god are weak who so desperately want a second life filled with happiness that they believe in something as absurd as the flying sphaggetti monster. They fear death, often because they feel unnaccomplished among other reasons.

aru37456(65) Disputed
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You are ignorant !

can an atheist say something different than flying spaghetti ?

this is simply easy to refute.... but don't have time to repeated again!

presupposing is the most pitfall of atheism.

there is no direct relation to existence of GOD.

You can't prove GOD in your hands ! otherwise, You are GOD himself !

but,logic is enough to refute most of atheist arguments !

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firstly I'm not ignorant considering my entire family as well as all my friends (i go to a catholic school) are christian. I speak from observation. Obviously not all christians feel weak and unaccomplished or whatever, I'm simply trying to make these two points

1. the religion was originally made up partly because people couldn't accept they would simply die.

2. and secondly some people don't convert because they are too weak to accept we are alone. I don't blame them its a sad truth. Can an atheist say something different than flying sphagetti? perhaps but i like that culinary motherfucker so in this case, no i can't. I know there is no relation to gods existence I'm saying people mostly believe in god when times are tough and when they feel weak. example

*the overpriveleged teenager has little reason to believe in god while the 60 year old condemned to die alone in jail reads the bible every waking hour he's not working out or getting raped.

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Some of the most famous Scientists and Philosophers are also devout believers !

Some of the most famous Scientists and Philosophers are also devout believers !

Some of the most famous Scientists and Philosophers are also devout believers !

How can Atheist explain that !?

many converts are came from atheist and agnostic !

people have many different reasons to believe in GOD.