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 Police struggle to stop flood of firearms into UK (6)

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Police struggle to stop flood of firearms into UK

Police and border officials are struggling to stop a rising supply of illegal firearms being smuggled into Britain, a senior police chief has warned.

Chief constable Andy Cooke, the national police lead for serious and organised crime, said law enforcement had seen an increased supply of guns over the past year, and feared that it would continue in 2019.

The Guardian has learned that the situation is so serious that the National Crime Agency has taken the rare step of using its legal powers to direct every single police force to step up the fight against illegal guns.

The Brits have illegal guns in the UK how is that possible.

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The increasing supply of guns is a result of problems with UK border security and innovations by organised crime gangs. Smugglers have increasingly found new ways and innovative routes to get guns past border defenses.

Oh no the Brits have border security problems. Who would have known that.

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It's almost like criminals don't follow laws and disarming law abiding people has no effect on people who would go out raping and murdering. Y'know, we all thought that criminals would be like "I totally want to go rob that liquor store, but I just checked the gun laws and I'm not allowed to have this pistol that I can buy off of the black market imported from wherever or built in a machine shop or stolen or fill in the blank. I guess I'll have to go be a productive member of society." Weird, coulda sworn that would work.

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It's almost like criminals don't follow laws

Right, and by that same logic, why even have laws at all? I mean, if criminals aren't going to follow them, then let's just not have laws, right?

You guys are insane when it comes to guns. Insane.

Chinaman(2380) Clarified
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Dummy you got an illegal gun problem in the UK so what are you going to do about it.

Speak up stupid and spew some of your ignorant nonsense.

Nominclature(17) Disputed
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I agree completely and fully with this. I propose a mandatory gun grab by the Western governments immediately. Why fuck with these stupid, lying Nazis any longer?

TheDevil(1) Disputed
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Right, and by that same logic, why even have laws at all?

To standardize punishments for crimes of actual victimization. Which gun ownership isn't. But we've been over that and the conversation goes nowhere.

Nom, serious question here. What is your plan? Politically, I mean? Like, if you were put in charge of the world tomorrow and were able to pass any law you wanted, what would they be, why, and most importantly, what do you think the ACTUAL consequences would be? We've never gone over that and I seriously want to know. Because it sounds to me like your plan is just to ban it all, and then arrest the millions of people who don't comply, all the while thinking that wouldn't lead to the second American civil war, and somehow I'm the insane one (and the fascist) for saying "That's a really fuckin' terrible idea that can only end in further bloodshed."

Seriously, what would it take to get you to explain to me what your anti-gun Utopia looks like? I want to know.