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Was God an Astronaut?

Chariots of the Gods: Was God An Astronaut is a book by Erich von Dankien. The hypothesis is the idea that technologies and religions of many ancient civilizations were given to them by space travelers who were welcomed as gods.

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."   ----Arthur C. Clarke

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Ancient Astronauts

EXCELLENT BOOK

YES, Children of Spacemen

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NO, Impossible

Side Score: 10
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That would explain why I feel like an alien!...............................

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Side: YES, Children of Spacemen

Does God exist, and if he does, was he a spaceman. In the movie Chariots of the Gods, during WWII, the United States used a island as a air force base. When they first arrived, the indigenous peoples with no outside contact of the world, treated the soldiers as GODS because they had readily available food, water and they could fly in almost God like machines.

Evidence is suggesting God was an astronaut is ubiquitous.

Speculation has been brought by experts on whether the Great Pyramids were built by man because There is no way that man was capable of such technology over 2000 years ago.

The Great Pyramid is believed to have been built over a 20 year span. The pyramid is so huge and so perfect we wouldn't be able to construct something in this day and age that will compare. Each giant Stone ranges from 1 to 20 tons in weight, and the Great Pyramid consisted of well over 100,000 stones. But the Egyptians had no machinery, engines, or construction equipment. So the question still lurks, who built the great pyramids? [1]

How did Egyptians hauled 20 ton stones and placed them perfectly Hundreds Of Feet high (145.75 m, 481 ft high). Some suggest they built a ramp with stones that went from the ground to the top. The flaw is that it would take more rocks to build the ramp than it would to build the pyramid. So, where did the rocks go after being built. [1]

If it took 10,000 workers per month over a 20 year span to build the Pyramid like experts suggest, There wouldn't be enough people in a 500 mile radius to make this possible. [1]

http://www.unexplainable.net/artman/publish/article_2297.shtml [1]

Supporting Evidence: Chariots of the Gods Movie Link (video.google.com)
Side: YES, Children of Spacemen
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All is violent, All is bright. God Is An Astronaut.

but seriously i have no fucking clue. its possible either way.

Side: YES, Children of Spacemen

Just as every other theory on God, I suppose. Not saying it's true, but just as likely.

Side: YES, Children of Spacemen

I've actually read this book, years ago. It was a good read.

I can't say for a certainty that it didn't happen that way. But any alien race would have had to:

1. Have a planet form with the correct conditions for life.

2. Evolve along a roughly parallel course to humans (e.g. tool creation, social culture, etc).

3. Follow technological advancements that highlight expansion.

4. Find Earth (somewhat like finding a diamond in a mountain high pile of cubic zirconias... it's harder than finding a needle in a haystack).

5. Visit Earth. This one's tricky due to the amount of travel time. Either they have a very long lived race and can afford to send off small teams that can investigate and return, or they have colony ships. If so, they've overcome a lot of problems, not the least of which is reproduction in microgravity (I assume similar physiology to terrestrial macrorganisms).

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14002908/ns/ technology_and_science-space/page/2/

If they came here, what was their purpose?

If it was colonisation (with us being the descendants) why are there so many similarities between humans and other apes, both physically and genetically? The more rational explanation is that homo sapiens is native to this planet.

If it was trade, what did we give them that made it worth their while to come this far? If it was resources, e.g. water, fuel, etc. they could have simply taken it for themselves. They have no more reason to petition humans for that than to petition ants or fish.

I can't imagine an extraterrestrial race coming to Earth and giving us technological advancements without asking for anything in return. It doesn't make sense.

And if they did advance us, what technologies did they give us that we couldn't have come up with on our own? We're an innovative race with an amazing capacity for producing novel ideas. There must surely be some sort of trail there somewhere of technology that appeared "out of time".

As far as I can see, most of this theory is based on artwork and stories. Did Escher get his ideas from aliens? What about Giger? Or Dali? We don't need gods from the sky, extraterrestrial or not, to explain these things. All we need is the human imagination.

Side: Extremely improbable

What if the aliens came here, killed off all of the dinosaurs and then spliced their genetic material with apes in order to create us even as they died because they couldn't make the return trip. Kinda like a made for TV movie ;)

Side: NO, Impossible

Are you talking about Battlefield Earth with John Travolta. Or No.

Side: NO, Impossible

Are you strictly a believer of evolution where space is fulled with coincidences and randomness or are you a believer of God as Human where everything is predetermined and planned.

However,

Under the Kardashev Scale, he postulated types of civilization where civilizations grow depending on the amount of usable energy a civilization has at its disposal, and the degree of space colonization.

Currently, humans are .7 which we are not even on the scale yet. Types I, II, III, and VI.

However, type VI or above were civilizations that are so advanced that can control the fundamental forces of the entire universe. They create civilizations where colonizes are spread throughout the universe, and they may even be able to cross dimensions and the seeds of life throughout the universe. An civilization billions of years of evolution.

1. The humans and apes is a hard theory to discredit. Some believe that the visitors mated with the primitive female apes, and skipped a evolutionary step in exchange for the techniques for reading and writing.

2. It is believed that the visitors did not give any specific technology but how to read and write.

For a civilization to succeed, it really only needs reading and writing to get the ball rolling.

NOTE: Please read my other response on YES!!!

Supporting Evidence: Karashev Scale (en.wikipedia.org)
Side: YES, Children of Spacemen

I am a strick believer of evolution etc. I see no need for a God, the universe would run exactly the same way whether there was a God or not.

Have you actually read the Wikipedia article on Daniken? I recommend looking at the criticism where Daniken was caught out with fraudulent evidence.

As for the Karashev Scale, I'm not sure I agree with the arbitrary placings on a scale which is entirely speculative and only has one example to work from. It also means that civilisations which are more efficient with their energy usage get dropped down the list, even though they may have reached a greater technological state. I see benefits for using this scale as a statistical tool for measuring global human energy usage, but extrapolating that to include other (extraterrestrial) species and other types of technology is working with flawed reasoning until we have a sample study of >1 to validate it, I'm afraid.

Reading and writing? We needed ET for that? Because I don't think it takes a genius to work out that marks on a wall or in mud is a really good way of keeping track of things. Cuneiform (oldest known writing) started off as pictographs. But before that, there was a Mesopotamian system of accounting that used clay tokens, and cuneiform was a logical step from there. The beauty of logographs is that they can be read by people of many different languages, because they aren't phonetic, each one means a word. It probably arose (my most plausible explanation that I can come up with off the top of my head...) because of two people who didn't understand each other, so while they were haggling over price, one picks up his accounting slab and starts drawing to indicate what he's talking about. How does that require alien intervention?

And the human/ape thing... The time frames don't match. Cuneiform dates back to roughly 3,400 BC. The accounting system I mentioned dates back to 8,000 BC. Homo sapiens dates back to roughly 200,000 years ago.

As for the Great Pyramid, this link explains the points you raised in the other response.

Side: Extremely improbable
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What the heck?

No God was NOT an Astronaut!

He created the Earth.

Side: NO, Impossible
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Can you prove that God was not Astronaut? Just because a book says that he isn't, doesn't prove it. We know this because fiction books are still written today.

Side: YES, Children of Spacemen
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If there was no God there would be no YOUU!

He created you, he created everything!

How do you think everything got here?!

Side: NO, Impossible
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How was everything created?

Well, simple, The Big Bang Theory.[1]

I encourage you to read. It is quite fascinating.

Supporting Evidence: Big Bang [1] (en.wikipedia.org)
Side: YES, Children of Spacemen
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Not impossible, but improbable.

If you're into this type of thing check out a book called "The Biggest Secret" by David Icke. Shape shifting reptilian overlords from another dimension, hollow world, extraterrestrial "gods", Atlantis, Aryan super race = Alien overlord/Monkey slave hybrids, Hitler lives forever, vibrations that induce fear and hate to oppress people's ability to love and smoke weed, secret tunnels, worm holes, etc.

You'll be insane by the time you finish the book, guaranteed.

Side: NO, Impossible