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6 Seek the Lord while He may be found; Call upon Him while He is near. 7 Let the wicked forsake his way And the unrighteous man his thoughts; And let him return to the Lord, And He will have compassion on him, And to our God, For He will abundantly pardon.

8 “For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways,” declares the Lord. 
9 “For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways And My thoughts than your thoughts.

10 “For as the rain and the snow come down from heaven, And do not return there without watering the earth And making it bear and sprout, And furnishing seed to the sower and bread to the eater; 11 So will My word be which goes forth from My mouth; It will not return to Me empty, Without accomplishing what I desire, And without succeeding in the matter for which I sent it.

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It means you have given up on reality and intelligent discussion.

It means that along with 2.2 billion other Christians, 1.6 billion Muslims and some 30 million Sikhs you are living in the unreal world of cloud cuckoo land.

This in turn means that you are wasting a large part of your life worshiping a non existent God and trying to recruit the weak minded and vulnerable, including brainwashing children to do the same as you by a relentless torrent of superstitious mambo jumbo.

Filth like you should hang their heads in shame at the way you exploit those who are either too young or too intellectually challenged to think for themselves.

The other meaning of you displaying the scriptural gobbledygook is that you are a mischievous little troll just playing with the forum's participants, for no other reason than amusement.

Whatever your motive is, one thing is for sure, you need to visit your nearest psychiatric clinic as a matter of extreme urgency.

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So you are linear and limited in dimensions of consciousness and spirit and soul.

I understand that a lot of people can't sense God. Especially when they are closed in their hearts and their minds are hardened.

I wouldn't want to be that "down to earth." I think people were happier when God was among communities even in a moderate measure. People are not improving!

I think this dynamic is the final generation, separating and torn away. The more gravity pulls everyone down, we will caught up.

Jesus' said two in the field, one taken, one left .... disciples ask where? Where were they taken? Jesus answers where the bodies are, the vultures gather.

And in Revelations there are two feast, one feast feeds His enemies to the birds.

Continuity. We can find this prophetic vision in many of the events iand writings n scriptures.

Reasonings, not just one sided and twisted selective. We have layers of evidence. To someone who could reason these should be authenticating.

Even if belief were out of the question for you by choice, Christianity, the Bible, and Israel still have merit in compelling evidence shown in every direction. It confirms itself like going in and out spiraling throughout itself in a Never-ending flow connecting each piece like one author. Not 66 authors.

Bearing coincidence to each other with coincidence upon coincidence but with accuracy of design. Without twisting

or manipulating the evidence is self defining as credible by

it's simplicity, nature, and in basic principles of common sense.

There's a reason God says "Come now let us reason together"

1 Corinthians 1

18 For the word of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19 For it is written, “I will destroy the wisdom of the wise,

And the cleverness of the clever I will set aside.”

20 Where is the wise man? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?

21 For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not come to know God, God was well-pleased through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.

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The reasonings I've used are not going forward and backward to find anything and to find it at any depth necessary to show something. Which is basically that nonsense math acrobatic exercise.

The comparison used is a ridiculous comparison like comparing Ruth's Chris Steakhouse to Burger King. It's nonsense! In the beginning of the only five books of the TORH with 49 Intervals with YHWY in the middle book at 7 Intervals which is God's number, and square route of 49.

And its uniform through each book. So for it to be entered as evidence in my book it has strong merit. Which it does! It's uniform and it is designed. But since you believe in evolution, I can see how elevated random is, so design is ignored.

I have given many diverse directed arguments, all with absolute credible reasoning that if heard would stand in a court of law if evidence of God were on trial. The problem, with hearing the evidence is it would be hard to find a fair unspoiled jury!

Then we add to the evidence. In the 1st verse of Genesis, and John 1, clearly written unfolded the exact mathmatical equations that were not found till centuries later.

And again no one's doing back flips stretching it out to say something it doesn't. The other curious thing, the two verses, are the beginning of text start with the creation, "in the beginning." In two languages.

Both are to the selected people of God in the interim before circling around and joining them. And both of these that state " in the beginning" yet each in two different language that are written in original of their beginnings.

The TORH in Hebrew, and as the New Testamemt in Greek. For about three centuries before Jesus' walk on earth the Jews were writing in Greek.

So I'm floored that they each stand, uniformly and consistency, showing Gods patterns and logic. When He unveils more, you may get even more unreasonable, but in the end you will feel foolish.

So in two different languages, each indicative of the beginnings of each of God's chosen people, Israel and the Church.

From "pi" to "e," it's so obvious, it makes me wonder if God has placed it to find simply to mock the advancement of knowledge that dismisses Him and to show the intelligent to be fools.

Or finding the rule of pi in the 1st, and then the rule of e in the 2nd may be stating even more, idk. But it certainly sits perched and mocks at fools and God clearly states He will do that.

I also took a physics approach, and curiously physics resembles beliefs held among both groups of God. Light, Omnipresence, and Oneness in the state of non-locality.

Working principles in the studies of multidimensional, light speed and physics order is biblical design. Having one of these principals I could see if that were dismissed. Many principles and ideas in advanced physics were written about by ancients who wrote their application as experiences not just as a science lab. But they understood it by being part of it.

So while Christians experience things science studies, you still all ignore it. Again it's not reasonable. If they happened to bumble on just light. We'd be like lucky coincidence.

But instead the Bible tackles time, space, light, the macrocosm, stretching space, gravity,

scientist are looking at where we are part of a larger reality,

well among many examples, we have Elijah showing his

servant while he was worried, another dimension of angels.

This isn't just a story, we have believed in a larger reality since Genesis 1:1.

And its not the same as other religions, Mohommad stole much and then made it a version of God. Actually it isn't God, God is not of the character they paint. And the verses they use are like thrown puzzle pieces of many puzzles each incomplete and thrown in the same box.

Whereas the Bible is ordered line upon line, it is accurate by nature of His Word. Not by lucky accident.

Since you ate trying to make it equal, your either incredibly unreasonable, or simply not knowledgeable enough to think the subject through, let alone give your strong opinion on it, or you are a deceiver, who decides thoughts of others by steering to whatever motivating factor in a hardened heart.

I also gave added reasonable evidence in the physical evidence, and logical application to factors like what motivation would Paul have for executing Christians and hailing martyrs as Steven was stoned.

To then change to be persecuted, and imprisoned and sought after to be killed. If that were sitting by itself I could see its dismissal, but if you pile up stacks and stacks confirming the Butler did it, do you think beyond a shadow of a doubt the jury would also be compelled by the mound of evidence.

Yet no matter how many things are stacked up, from fulfilled prophesy, to consistency of one coordinated message, that confirms itself in almost every chapter. And to also confirm with these uniformly ordered messages that are. No trickster lengthy manipulation. It is reasonable in the languages themselves.

So we have advanced math in the first verse of two books, the only two that start with in the beginning! Aren't we all debating "in the beginning"??

There are crazy examples of stretching this like I'm everything!

But let's not pretend these examples are exaggerations. They are reasonable.

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What does it mean?

Hmm..most likely that reality scares the living shit out of you so, as an emotional placebo, you feel it necessary to invent adult versions of invisible childhood friends. And also immerse yourself in a perpetual and all-encompassing fantasy world in which the creator of the Universe----get this!---not only knows who the fuck you are (laugh laugh) but actually loves you!

How am I doing so far?

LOL

SS

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It means a couple thousand years ago someone gave a bombastic speech like Trump would today and you're falling all over yourself to surrender your reality to whatever you think it might mean.

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