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Jim Martin (D)


C. Saxby Chambliss (R)

Debate Score:46
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Total Votes:54
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Who should I vote for in the 2008 Georgia Senate Race?


Jim Martin (D)

Side Score: 24
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C. Saxby Chambliss (R)

Side Score: 22
3 points

Last month famed civil rights activist, Rev. Joseph Lowry, announced his endorsement of Jim Martin. Joseph Lowry is the founder of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, so his endorsement for the democratic senatorial candidate is an enormous step forward for Martin who is still about six points behind his Republican opponent.

With Rev. Lowry's support also came the support of other prominent leaders in the community and clergy including, The Rev. Tim McDonald, the former leader of the Concerned Black Clergy, and the Rev. J.A. Milner, pastor of Chapel of Christian Love Baptist Church in Atlanta.

Reverend Lowry said in the Atlanta Journal Constitution: "As we anticipate the election of a visionary president of these United States in November, we must be keenly aware of the need to send to the Congress men and women who share the vision of the president and the platform from which attempts will be made to enact laws and establish policies. We believe Jim Martin, candidate for the U.S. Senate, and consistent Democrat, meets that standard, and shares that vision."

So, with the African American community in Georgia firmly behind Martin, can we expect to see this strong leader rise up to take back his points and make a stance for racial unity in the deep south?

Side: Racial unity
2 points

According to the Rasmussen reports, Martin is up another point against Chambliss and is now running 43% to 48%. In his blog, Martin talks about how Georgians are beginning to turn towards him as they watch Chambliss take more money from McCain at an event hosted by "Ralph Reed - the disgraced Republican operative and associate of lobbyist-turned-convicted-felon Jack Abramoff."

The big bucks Chambliss has received from Big Oil and corporations may be nothing to sniff at, says Martin. He is well aware that large sums speak and now, with November closing is, this so-called "sleeper" race may cause Chambliss and his shady dealings to fold under pressure from the public, regardless of cronyism and Republican money.

Supporting Evidence: Martin moving up (www.wikio.com)
Side: Jim Martin
3 points

Jim Martin (D) is going to try to buttress that lead over Saxby Chambliss (R) by launching an ad campaign of up to two and a half hours (or 294 commercials) over five Atlanta stations between today and next Tuesday.

At a price of $224, 445, the Martin Campaign is aiming to hedge the publicity Chambliss is receiving as he is currently legislating on behalf of a bipartisan energy bill that will lift the offshore drilling ban as well as offer tax cuts to companies investing in renewable energy initiatives.

Yet, the Chambliss campaign finance people have quoted their campaign ad expense at $2.76 million and will run ads consistently over the Atlanta broadcasts all the way to election day.

Martin's campaign is keeping mum about the content of their ads and the airtime purchase in general.

Supporting Evidence: Ad Wars (www.ajc.com)
Side: Ad Wars
2 points

With the Jack Abramoff scandal finally behind the Beltway, Saxby Chambliss wants the people of Georgia to forget that he took the former lobbyist's money or at least that he donated it to the Georgia National Guard Family Support Foundation.

Chambliss donated the $1,000 in a rush dumping of the Abramoff money. While he was not nearly the largest recipient of the corrupt money, he does suffer from the stigma Republicans and a few Democrats have received over the past few years.

The scandal was at the heart of the defrauding of the values driven Republican majority and helped sway the voters to aid the Democrats in the 2006 takeover.

Supporting Evidence: Bush, lawmakers returning Abramoff donations (www.msnbc.msn.com)
Side: Chambliss Forgets Abramoff Moneys
2 points

An explosion at the Imperial Sugar Factory plant in Port Wentworth, GA killed 13 people in February. On the Senate Floor, Saxby Chambliss blamed a “whisteblower” by the name of Graham who had worked at the plant for three months.

Opponents argue that safety violations are to blame and Chambliss has ties to the corporation with a desire to cover up the investigation. Chambliss serves as the ranking member on the Committee of Agriculture, Nutrition and Forestry. Imperial Sugar is represented by the Chicago Mercantile Exchange, a firm for which Chambliss' son, Bo, acts as an in-house lobbyist.

"Hilder and others have accused Chambliss of doing the company's bidding on Tuesday when he sharply questioned Graham at a Senate hearing. Chambliss' questions raised eyebrows because no one aside from Imperial had publicly doubted Graham's claims. That includes Chambliss' fellow Georgia Republican, Johnny Isakson. The two rarely split, but Isakson says he has full faith in Graham's account."

Chambliss says he has a standing policy to not work with his son.

Imperial Sugar's PAC has contributed $1,000 to Chambliss' reelection campaign.

Supporting Evidence: Lobbying Spending Database CME Group (www.opensecrets.org)
Side: Explosion Leads to Questions for Chambli
2 points

the economy is in a uproar.he wants to make sure we are on the right path,not only with our community but as hardworking people we deserve the best.He understands our problems and will strive to make our community as followers better

Side: Jim Martin
2 points

It seems that Georgia voter perception of Jim Martin (D) has taken an notable turn for the better as the recent SurveyUSA poll released by WXIA in Atlanta and WMAZ in Macon shows the Democrat within just 2 percentage points behind incumbent Republican Saxby Chambliss.

As Obama has gained momentum on the national level subsequent to the economic fallouts from last week (which have been effectively tied to the Republican Party and spell trouble for many Republican Senators struggling to keep their seats this election year,) many of the Democrats at the state level have also seen a spike in their numbers and are hoping to carry the wave through the month of October.

Martin's campaign will continue to paint Saxby Chambliss as a Bush disciple (especially in regards to the economy) and hopefully steal the seat on November 4th.

Supporting Evidence: Martin's Good Numbers (www.ajc.com)
Side: Martin's upswing
2 points

The Georgia Senate election race between Jim Martin (D) and Senator Saxy Chambliss (R) saw their campaigns in Albany (where Martin was stumping at the state Democratic headquarters) and Chambliss stopping at various spots throughout Spaulding County, Henry County, and Thomaston.

The main topic on hand for both candidates was (of course) the economy and (once again) the Democratic ticket pushed for tighter regulation on the financial markets and the Republican ticket is proposing to let the market work through the complications on its own.

Jim Martin took the opportunity to pin the Bush tag on Chambliss once again in hopes of drawing a clear parallel between the Republican Senator's term in the Senate and the negative ratings of George W. Bush and his administration's policies.

According to Martin, "Both parties are apparently running against the Republicans. John McCain apparently has forgotten he’s a Republican and Senator Saxby Chambliss is nothing more than a rubberstamp for George Bush’s failed policies and but everyone says they want change.”

The Democratic challenger blamed the trouble on Wall Street on "oil speculation" and argued that the government bailout in cooperation with tighter regulations will help the economy as well as the energy crisis by ensuring "reasonable oversight and transparency of the speculators to keep prices in line.”

He was also critical of the Senator's place in drafting the "Gang of 10" bill, which was composed by five Democrats and five Republicans who have introduced a proposal for lifting the offshore drilling ban while at the same time offering tax incentives for the use and development of alternative, renewable energy sources.

In defense of Chambliss on Martin's critique of the Republican's fiscal approach, Michelle Grasso, a spokeswoman, responded, "“He [Jim Martin] keeps telling people that there is no attempt to take on speculators, but he’s wrong. Supply and demand is driving the market and as markets like China jump in we have to drill and drill now so that we’re not dependent on foreign countries for our energy needs.”

Supporting Evidence: Campaign Stumps (www.albanyherald.com)
Side: Campaign Stumps
1 point

All Georgians can agree that at $10 billion a month in military costs, some plans must be put into play in Washington to bring much needed resources home to our schools, health care and to take care of troops in need of assistance here at home. Jim Martin wants to put a long-term plan into action that will bring our troops home and will help to insure a solid Iraqi government.

Republicans in Georgia are applauding Martin's actions. Everyone is sick of a war that has no obvious resolution and is costing billions in taxes.

From Martin's website, a Republican supporter:

"We live in Alpharetta and this has been a Republican area. This area for this election will be voting Democrat, and we will work to help you get elected. Responsible people know that if a war is un-necessary (defined as not worth dying for yourself) then it is not responsible for a voter to vote to continue the war. Saxby Chamblis when it was his time to serve shirked his duty (twice his draft number came up and twice he got deferments). For people my age, this is a big deal."-David Schwalje

Supporting Evidence: Jim Martin's Iraq pull-out plan (www.martinforsenate.com)
Side: Martin Iraq
5 points

When a senator does everything in his power to prevent progressive motion that affects the progress of not only the American economy, but the progress in Washington to shut out Big Oil PAC's and stop padding the pockets of Big OIl businessmen, something is seriously amiss.

Saxby Chamblis voted No on the Energy Alternatives for the Nation (CLEAN) Act because he claimed that to stop paying Big Oil and glad-handing was (and I quote) "communist".

The senator certainly has a flair for drama:

(Chambliss) "I am wearing this red shirt today, because this shirt is the color of the bill that we are debating, communist red. It is a taking. It will go to court, and it should be decided in court.

This bill will increase the competitive edge of foreign oil imported to this country. If the problem is foreign oil, why increase taxes and make it harder to produce American oil and gas? That makes no sense. We should insert taxes on all foreign oil imported. That would raise your money for renewable resources. But what we are doing here today is taxing our domestic oil. "

Well, so not using oil is communist. Brilliant.

Even if we disregard his apparent nonchalance for the current and future state of the environment, one cannot help if wonder if this antiquated senator will be able to put McCarthy back on his mantle and really study the renewable energy crisis instead of pointing the red finger at progress come election time. His statements make one wonder if he will ever be able to look ahead and put shot-gun competition to more present practical issues such as education and the health of the environment for future Georgians?

Chambliss for Big Oil
Side: Commie nature
2 points

Polling done for the Capital Hill Newspaper Roll Call and two local Georgia TV stations indicate that Saxby Chambliss is holding his lead and the coattails effect Democrats are counting on in a state with a large African American population is seemingly not occurring. Saxby is leading his challenger by 17 points, statistically the same as the 16 point lead John McCain has over Barack Obama in the national race. National interest in this race has expanded the coffers of Democrat Jim Martin despite Chambliss having taken in over $4M per his June filing. Polling to date would indicate this is in vain, unless there is a game changing event between now and the November elections.

Side: C. Saxby Chambliss
2 points

Neither Jim Martin (D) nor Saxby Chambliss (R) nor Libertarian Allen Buckley necessarily agreed with the $700 billion bailout as the three candidates battle it out for the Georgia Senate seat.

Yet, while he may have not liked it, Republican Saxby Chambliss voted for the bailout and he's going to have his hands full trying to explain to an already frustrated voting base in Georgia why he did.

"Whatever we do, honestly, is not going to be popular with lots of people in Georgia."

The incumbent Republican explained himself further:

"I'm concerned about people's mortgages being foreclosed on. I'm also concerned about the safety and security of every banking institution in the country."

"I'm not going to vote for any bill that allows for golden parachutes to be paid to executives at any banks."

In a political climate that belittles politically motivated decisions, you have to wonder about Saxby Chambliss' reasoning behind his vote in favor of Bush's bailout. He has to be aware of his declining standing amongst Georgia voters and their predominant disapproval of the bailout plan. Why then would he vote for it? With all the doom-sayers and dire predictions swirling around our economic state, perhaps the Senator was right?

Supporting Evidence: Chambliss Vote in the Bailout (www.jacksonville.com)
Side: Chambliss vote in the bailout
1 point

Chambliss is an established politician and has served Georgia well during his tenure in the Senate. His policies and voting record have helped move Georgia forward economically, and there is no reason to expect that replacing him with a lesser candidate.

Side: Chambliss for Senate
BigIron(477) Disputed
3 points

There is no question that Chambliss sits as an "established" politician in Georgia, and (judging how a lot of ballots appear to a casual voting eye) a familiar name is a lot of times all you need to get a check by it come November.

Nonetheless, Chambliss is well aware of the declining sentiment amongst American voters with the Republican Party or, more particularly, fiscal mismanagement and wasteful spending in the Republican Party and he knows that he has to campaign aggressively in his state to maintain his seat.

Chambliss attacked Martin soon after his Democratic Primary victory by painting the candidate as "very much out of touch with the way a majority of Georgians think."

Warner retorted by hitting at Chambliss' record regarding federal spending (at hot button issue for a lot of frustrated Republicans and Democrats alike) saying, "In 2002, Saxby Chambliss voted to return our country to deficit spending for the first time since 1998 and it's been downhill since," Martin said.

Supporting Evidence: Warner Chambliss Battle (www.11alive.com)
Side: Warner Chambliss Battle
1 point

It's not a good idea for the Democrats to be running candidates like Jim Martin, who are largely unknown, against incumbents who know at least partially what they're talking about. Experience should never be underestimated. We are a long way from having all the facts out for public view of where Martin stands on all issues. But Chambliss served four terms in the House and is now finishing a term in the Senate, and we have plenty of information on his stances.

Side:
C. Saxby Chambliss (R)
1 point

C. Saxby Chambliss and Sen. Kent Conrad (D) of North Dakota are pushing a bill that supports the expansion of offshore drilling efforts as well as an extension of tax credits for renewable energy initiatives.

The bill marks a major compromise and significant progress in bipartisan legislation with regards to our current energy crisis.

Chambliss states, "The No. 1 issue I hear about continues to be the high cost of fuel. The American people are looking for action.”

He continues, "We’re drilling in the Gulf now pretty close to this area. We have the infrastructure there, [and] we have the pipelines.”

If the bill passes, it will be a watershed moment for Chambliss' campaign against Jim Martin (D) and prove his pragmatic success in dealing with the energy issue, which is fast rising to the top (if it's not already there) of Georgia (and the nation's) voter's concerns as they head to the polls in November.

Supporting Evidence: Pragmatic Legislation (www.msnbc.msn.com)
Side: Pragmatic Legislation
1 point

Sen. C. Saxby Chambliss proposed the New Energy Reform of 2008 or the New Era legislation that is aiming "to transition our economy - particularly the surface transportation sector – to run off alternative fuels other than gasoline and diesel" (according to http://www.cfr.org/publication/17065/new_energy_reform_act_of_2008_new_era_bill_proposed.html.) )

The bill would grant $20 billion over ten years in federal funds to support the initiative.

The legislation is composed of three major parts:

- the transition of automobiles to non-petroleum based fuels

- a stronger federal contribution and commitment to energy efficiency and conservation

- more investment and development of domestic energy resources

Last month, four more Senators signed on in support of the bill, including Susan Collins (R), Evan Bayh (D), Elizabeth Dole (R), and Amy Klobuchar (D). This addition brings the total to 20 senators backing Chambliss' proposal - 10 Republicans and 10 Senators.

Chambliss and Kent Conrad released this statement on behalf of the support:

"We are pleased to have the support of our colleagues and we will all work together to keep the momentum moving in an effort to gain additional support for this bipartisan proposal. America’s growing energy crisis demands immediate action. Our Group of 20 is taking an approach that goes beyond the polarizing partisanship that has poisoned Washington. America’s energy security is not a Democratic issue, or a Republican issue. It is an issue that affects all of us.”

Supporting Evidence: New Era (www.daltondailycitizen.com)
Side: New Era
1 point

Chambliss Votes for Bailout

Chambliss explained that he voted for the bill because he believes that expedient action must be taken to ensure economic stability of millions. After the vote he stated,

"Today, I had a significant choice to make between two very different courses of action – do nothing at all or do what I truly believe is best for America. I believe to the core of my being that doing nothing will devastate our economy, destroy the financial security of millions of Americans and could possibly force our nation into a depression. I just as strongly believe the bill as it has been negotiated, and that I just voted for, will provide stability during this crisis and will begin to turn our economy around."

Opposed to popular portrayal, Chamblis frames the bill as a measure that will stop the financial crisis. He continued,

"Let me be clear – this is not a bailout. This bill has been carefully crafted to arrest our current financial crisis, restore security for the American taxpayer and ensure that our nation is the strongest economic power in the world."

Supporting Evidence: Yes to Bailout (chambliss.senate.gov)
Side: Bailout
Naje(432) Disputed
1 point

Considering that Bush's plan is being scrutinized by both parties and calls for putting yet another $700 billion in tax payer dollars towards government buy-outs instead of focusing on serious long-range ideas, it's no wonder that Chambliss, with his record as a Bush voter, supports the bill.

Martin, on the other hand, says that he will not support such an act that will only extend further debt to middle-income families. Until consumer protection can be offered in the housing market, Martin says that Wall Street's issues must be addressed with a plan that works in conjunction with the interests of middle-class Americans and their immediate financial concerns.

Martin: "I am disappointed, but not surprised, to see that Saxby Chambliss voted for another typical Washington solution to a very real problem. It's classic Saxby Economics - $700 billion for Wall Street, while Georgia families get stuck with the bill. That's just wrong. This updated package still fails to address the fundamental problems created by the deregulation of Wall Street, which Chambliss went to Washington and voted for every step of the way. And it lacks consumer protections to stem the abusive lending practices that are at the root of this crisis - practices that I sounded the alarm on two years ago, long before the mortgage crisis began.

Supporting Evidence: Chambliss just another nod for Bush spending (www.martinforsenate.com)
Side: Jim Martin
1 point

A vote for Saxby is at least a safe vote, Jim Martin can't decide where he stands on issues. It's like he is waiting for someone to tell him. Saxby is an honest social conservative, but not really a financial conservative, though I think that he will come around to that point of view. I also believe that the Southern Republicans will prove to be a vocal and dangerous foil to extreme Obama policies, such as gun bans and abortion becoming available at the gas station

Side: C. Saxby Chambliss
0 points

Naje, please stop trying to spread your liberal propaganda. You are obviously a little intern for Jim Martin, who was the most liberal member under the Gold Dome. If you want to pull out information, why don't you explain to us how 2 infants died under Jim Martins watch while he was head of DHR??? For which he lost his job!!! How could you want this man in a federal office? What has he done? At least Saxby has gotten things done for Georgians, and is working on an energy plan, which is the number one issue in the country right now, and you obviously can't tell that energy effects everything including education and health care, just ask Martin's former opponents, Rand Knight, Josh Lanier, and Dale Cardwell.

Side: C. Saxby Chambliss