Either Prodigee or Abby. For one Abby uses a cuss word in maybe every sentence in her debates. She uses the word "fuck" so much it doesn't sound like a real word anymore.
Prodigee? OMG that guy was crazy. He was a little over the edge. The biggest troll I have ever seen in my life. He was also the most perverted person to ever exist and probably is schizophrenic, delusional, and just plain old stupid.
No the Bible doesn't have Natsu, Lucy, Happy, Ezra, and Gray in there and all of the Fairy Tail people in there.
Whoa dude!!!! Ezra has an entire book in the bible. The Book of Ezra? Have you never read it or something?
Jesus didn't die on the cross for those people but for mankind which is us.
Who ever Ezra was he died for that person.
Number 9. We just build one robot with a full conscious and it realizes that it can make more of itself and make itself stronger. All of a sudden it realizes that the human race is a destructive force against itself and it will slay all of us and reign as the supreme race. Earth will be the new Cybertron.
Sorry that's just scientifically dishonest. I had to jump in.
She is born with her egg. How is it not hers? The embryo is both the father and the mothers. However the egg is the mothers. You must not understand much about the female body. You are born with the set amount of eggs you will have in your lifetime dude. You gotta get educated.
The definition of murder is the deliberate killing of a human being.
Murder: is the unlawful killing, with malice aforethought, of another human. - wikipedia
Murder: The unlawful killing of a one human by another especially with premeditated malice. - thefreedictionary.com
Murder: the crime of unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought. - Merriam-webster.com
Murder: killing another human being with malice aforethought. - law.cornell.edu
Like a said before. No malice, no murder.
I haven't seen anyone accidentally have an abortion. They chose to have a abortion, therefore they committed murder.
If it was a malicious abortion sure but that sounds stupid. Killing sure that is acceptable.
So, please tell me, other then an emergency issue, why is there a need for abortion?
The mother is not financially stable.
The mother is not ready.
Raped.
The mother wants to because she can afford it and can do so because its her egg so you can't really tell her what to do with it.
Its dates often contradict as well as the numbers of troops and usually has some supernatural thing tacked onto it. It isnt a trustworthy source for that kind of information especially compared to historians writings
Two different authors. Two different perspectives. Many translations. Typical Atheist.
Yeah not really! The old testament doesnt really have anything describing the daily life of the average Jew and the new testament just follows jesus around. Again, historians reports are far better.
I clearly said it touches on that. These authors wrote things to the public and to churches which pretty much gave a description of their lives. So again, think for at least 5 seconds.
Ill grant you this one, however i again need to mention that it isnt specific to the bible. The historians writings have culture in it too.
You act like I am saying the bible is better. Or that history books don't have the information.
It doesnt really say more than "Cain brought a sheep for slaughter" so i guess it does say they raised sheep. but the historians actually have accounts of what crops are grown where and what livestock are raised, their farming techniques, and so on.
The bible does mention plants and stuff so.....idk.
no like relations with other countries and nations. The bible doesnt really talk about government and politics at all and it often gets relations with other nations wrong. There were never any masses of jews in egypt for example. So another point for historians whos main bulk of the writing is about politics and government works.
What if historians were wrong? What if the bible is wrong? Idk. I don't care.
No, its inaccuracy makes it lose all accuracy. When it stacks up to the facts it usually fails.
Dude, its an account of the perspectives of different people. So its accurate.
Correction. Someone was writing down what they thought people said about people who may or may not have existed and what they may or may not have thought they saw or heard. And anyways THEIR perspective isnt really important when you gather that they believed in a space wizard who birthed a son that did magic tricks. They sort of lose credibility.
Space wizard? What the hell? Typical Atheist. A wizard is not a god. God is supposed to be outside of space and time. He is not a space wizard. Why do you guys always just go for the insults? And perspective is important if you want to know what people think.
Not compared to the accurate writings of historians as well as government records from nations. The spiritual ramblings of ancient jews in a holy book isnt a credible source even if it does get a couple things right.
Yes it is. Its a personal account from the jews. Its still a personal source of info from a perspective.
We dont want snip bits. Snip bits of fact among non-facts are not credible when compared to almost completely factual accounts
Example:
Bible: Courtney fell.
History book: Courtney was running from wolves. She tripped over a large stick and fell and got devoured.
Still sounds fine to me. Sounds like they just left out some information. I really don't care. Courtney still fell.
If we can A) prove that person actually wrote the book. and B) That what they saw or heard wasnt only what they THOUGHT they saw or heard.
So then scientists can study it and figure out what made them think that. Still works as a source of study too.
Yes but in different ways. Im talking about where it is best to go to get facts about a whole range of topics from a trustworthy source. That would be from historians. If you want some fact and culture mixed with deluded perspectives about unfactual happenings then the bible is your source.
So again blah blah blah bible is mush. I have heard enough of that.
I hope you dont mean that its my CHOICE whether it persuades me
If it gets you it got you. Thats it dude.
A firmament that separated the waters from the waters. As if there was almost like an ocean above and an ocean below. THIS NEVER EXISTED.
The firmament is the sky............the sky would split heaven and the waters.......I mean it only takes a few seconds to think of that.....
One being that theres no proof a god poofed anything into existence and another that the intense greenhouse effect it caused would burn up all life on the planet.
What does the greenhouse affect have to do with anything i said? There has to be a slight greenhouse effect for life to start. Just not as much a Venus. So what does that have to do with anything I said? Also there is no conclusive evidence against and being like God.
As for the incest thing it would never stabalize... 2 people literally cannot spawn 7 billion people over ANY length of time. It just doesnt work.
Adam and Eve for example may have 7 children. 3 girls 4 boys. Thats three mates. They mate and have three more children each making 9 children. Repeat until you get to 7 billion.
As for the flood. It never happened. Where did the water come from? No explaination.
How do you know? Were you there? No. Where did it come from? God maybe? If he exists he can make some more water. That isn't a hard task.
How did the saltwater or freshwater animals survive in brackish water?
There is no need for them to. God said take two of every kind of animal so grab two fish. Why grab all the species if their habitat will change? That is illogical. So grab two fish or primarily any kind (probably closets to him). Two whale would be simple. They dont have to be on the boat. Two ocean fish would be simple. They wouldn't have to either. Hopefully you aren't assuming God meant grab two of every species of animal. That would be crazy.
Where did the water go? No boat of the size in the book can hold that many animals, their food, feces, ect.
Um yes it could. Like I said grab two of a kind of animal not two of every species. Leave the whales in the water. Throw the feces of the boat like a normal person would do. Food would be easy because there would still be space.
Men dont live past 120 max EVER so noah was not 500 freaking years old.
Dude, stay with the context of the story. I don't care if he was just 20 and died. He lived for a long time. If God exists its all possible.
And ultimately the sediment layers studied by geologists disproves it entirely not to mention that we have writings from other places in the world at the same time as the flood and they never mention it or died.
I swear other cultures talk about a great flood. Sediment samples? You are dealing with God. Leaving a trace would be against his beliefs.
Exactly. so how can anyone propogate that they know for a fact that it happened?
It goes both ways. You can't prove of disprove it.
Im the creation of my mother and father and i know how it happened and that they both exist. The process was natural. Why should the creation of the universe be any different? Being a creation doesnt mean we CANT know.
You mother and father a probably alive. Were you there to witness the creation of earth? How about your parents? Grandparents? Great grandparents? Ancestors? Nobody saw it. You can never know if it happened or not.
Dirt came AFTER bacteria. What is dirt? Decayed plant and animal matter.
I was thinking more along the terms of just earth and maybe some water and with the right chemicals you can form something. Scientists have formed amino acids in a lab without dirt so I would assume it is completely possible.
We cant have plants and animals living and dying so much that it created dirt before we even had bacteria. And bacteria werent even the first creatures. The first protein strain had to exist.
An amino acid or something. Sure whatever you wanna say. I am sure it touched some dirt and by that I mean earth and water.
We dont know how it happened exactly but from that point we have a really solid recreation of how life evolved from step one. Nowhere does it include or ever need a god or any supernatural force. Im not trying to be mean when i say this but you have no idea how evolution nor abiogenesis works...
That's true. I don't waste my time on it because I don't like science. If they can't have an exact answer I don't want to hear it. Tell me when they make a legit discovery.
Neither was I but i dont need to be. With science we can discover many things. And with logical thinking we can dismiss certain ideas. Combine the two and we have no need for a god. Hes out of the picture.
No you just have people thinking logically while God is somewhere far away or something. Whatever religion deems him as. It doesn't delete him. It just ignores him.
I dont need to think about it. Its entirely rediculous and ive also heard it tons of times before. Could a god exist? Sure its possible. But everything we know about the world. Every theory and law and finding all of it has natural causes and processes that explain it. Never once have we ever needed supernatural forces to explain something. So why should the beginning of the universe and planet Earth be any different?
Because it is Earth and the Universe. Its so controversial. If you didn't know what a firmament was I highly doubt you actually think these things through.
Occams razor. That says that it is more logical to begin with using the simplest explaination before moving on to more complicated ones.
Simple Explaination: God
Complicated Explaination: Science
So what are you exactly saying? Its more logical to believe in God or something?
And it is more logical and simple to explain the evolution of our planet and the universe according to natural processes that align with EVERYTHING else we know instead of assuming some supernatural force that goes AGAINST everything we know poofed it into being. Not to mention we have evidence for our explaination and theres zero evidence for a god doing it.
A god could have just spawned the universe and walked away. Then you are just examining what the God did. It doesn't go against anything at all. It just examines the creation of that god.
If you wanna call it that. I perfer the term INFORMED atheist.
Informed? You didn't know the definiton for firmament so your credibility in my eyes has dropped.
I read and study scientific findings. I research things and read the works of prominent scientists and atheists and even creation scientists. I watch debates between theists and atheists to see whos side is stronger and i listen to people on here and debate with them. And every single time the atheistic side has come out on top.
That's because most Christian debaters suck ass. I am sure an Atheist has been defeated above. There are still things science may never answer.
Every single time the creationist claim is destroyed by the REAL science.
Thats cool I guess? I mean I really don't care that much. I don't watch arguments. I do other things.
I wont ever say "I know for a fact there is no god' that would be a lie. I dont know. but you dont know either.
True.
And no priest or pastor or pope does either. And no scientists for that matter. But i will say theres probably no god. I dont think there is one. THat is my opinion formed after years of study and the study i continue to do. Theres a whole world of information out there for you to assess. I suggest you take a look at it and decide for yourself instead of having other people decide for you. Im not making accusations, just observations.
What religion do you think I belong to?
Murder has a malicious intent. Killing does not have to. You can kill somebody on accident. You didn't murder them.
For example:
Let's say you are hiking with your buddy and his rope snaps because you yanked on it in hopes of checking its durability. He falls and dies. That isn't murder but you did kill him.
Now lets say a wife has figured out that her husband is sleeping with another woman and she is pissed off and she decides to stab the fuck out of him until he is dead and she wants him dead. That is murder.
Malicious: The desire to cause harm to someone
By that definition an abortion is not murder dude. I have not seen a mother just say "I fucking hate this baby I wanna kill it". Never have I heard that. Its usually a very emotional thing. A sad thing more than a malicious thing.
Dude. You are missing what I am saying.
But then again historians wrote the same things so the bible isnt a secret exclusive inside look at their beliefs
I would argue that it is I mean the entire thing says it all. It is stuffed with guys who believed in God. I would say it is a major inside look are the belief system of that specific era.
And we were talking about how people lived at the time, not only what they believed but their culture, daily lives, agriculture, relations, conflicts, ect.
Conflicts? The bible talks about that. Daily lives? It does touch on that. Culture? Majorly touched on that. Agriculture? I have no clue. Relations? Like relationships? I think it speaks of that and addresses some problems.
Historians jobs were to write down factual unbiased report-like accounts of their times which are far more trustworthy than a religious book that doesnt seek to be accurate or give a report of daily life but to propogate its belief set.
So basically blah blah blah the bible is religious so it loses all accuracy. I don't believe it. They are writing down what they went through from there perspective. Thats it. Its what they go through. So if that person was religious then they went through some religious trials. Its still a trustworthy source to study the mindset and cultural differences between nations back in the day. After all it is supposed to snip bits of history and place it into itself. It doesn't have to be an exact day to day basis. It can just tell you what that person has experienced. A history book informs and so does a bible. If you are persuaded by it then thats on you.
A firmament never existed at any time. Light cannot come before the sun. A God didnt poof the world into existence. 2 people didnt give birth to the entire lineage of the human race. The world was never flooded. THeres no evidence for a god poofing anything into existence ever. A pile of dirt cannot form into a man nor the ingredients in dirt. Likewise woman cannot come from 1 rib bone. Evolution does not in any way corrolate with genesis nor does the big bang. You made that up and are wrong.
I am hoping you understand what firmament actually means. One did exists then. God made heaven first before the sun. Logically there would be light so they can see. Therefore God made light in the heavens before he made them to shine for earth. Adam and Eve probably didn't but science has that weird thing in it too because according to science mating which you sister may produce offspring with a few disabilities.There would have to be a lot of incest in order to stabilize a population. I don't know if the world was flooded or not. I haven't seen any evidence for or against yet so I have no clue. You can't have evidence for a deity "poofing" things into existence. How would you? You are the creation of the deity so how would you even know? A pile of dirt may have started out as a bacteria and evolved from there and from that made Adam and Eve I don't know how it happened. I wasn't there. He didn't make it up really you just failed to think for a few seconds. You must be a hardcore Atheist.
It does give historians a sense of ancient writing styles and give them a sense of the mindsets of different people from back then. I don't see how one writing is more "accurate" than another if its just writings. It just shows us how people thought. It gives us a sense of what people believed back then.
