Dear Brother,

I mentioned about most of the Christians i.e. so called. I know that a real servant of the Lord is not comparable with worldly people. I am sorry if you thought I intended all Christians. Really it was so-called Christians. A real child of Jesus is, by no doubt, extremely peaceful which the world can not describe. Thanks.

Yes, atheists are more peaceful than theists are. The main reason is :

Unlike theists, atheists have no hope after their death. So, they think in their minds "we will have nothing to do after our death; why should we engage in strife..." So, "When a wicked man dies, his hope perishes; all he expected from his power comes to nothing." (Prov 11:7)

On the other hand the theists think in their minds "God is so gracious to us that, He has been forgiving our sins. So, let's us sin..." thus sinning becomes a habit of theists when they see the mercy of God with them. So, Paul's (inspired by God) statement comes to true : "But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound" (Rom 5:20). But the theists forget that, God doesn't want us remain in sin for mercy. "Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?"(Rom 6:1)

If you are a theist, then I would like to put something here for your clarification.

God exists. Christians (myself a Christian) believe, there is God; Muslims believe there is God; Hindus, Buddhist etc. believe there is God. I do not want to argue or tell you, who is God based on religions. But I can say, there is God. He may be Jesus; He may be Mohammad (Allah); Ram, Buddhadev or X, Y, Z, but there is God, no doubt.

And we can not apprehend God since He is outside of time and space. We are limited to time and space. Actually God or what you say Allah created time and space; He is beyond the dimension of time and space. The Bible says that, God's thoughts are higher than that of human beings. So, if we can know all these then we are also God. But that can not be possible. Human mind is so finite that, it can not understand the infinite God. While discussing the atheists I mentioned several time that, it is not possible to store the whole water of the earth in a single teaspoon. It is much more applicable in human mind when we try to understand or imagine about time or space. Because I said we are limited, while God is unlimited. He has no beginning; neither He has end. I advise you not to debate with the atheists, as I came to notice that, when they come to the point of defeat, they use uncivilized words with despair. Do not take you attention when speak against Allah or the Quran or Jesus or the Bible. Because the Bible clearly mentions that only fools say in their heart that there is no God. I hope, similar subject might be in the Quran. Thanks

in this empty space, there was a quantum foam or quantum field of some sort which also always existed (and still exists today). A field of virtual particles constantly popping in

So, how a field of virtual particles came to exist?

The variables regarding the creation of the universe are not known with any certainty, and so, using them as a foundational premise in an argument either for or against God means you can come to a logically valid conclusion and still be incorrect.

That's why said : "No one should deny the existence of God if the one is unable to prove the non-existence of God." Are you ready to prove that there is no God? If you are not able, why you say that, there is no God?

Perhaps nothing. Perhaps another universe or a different version of our own. Perhaps a sea of universes, each with a different set of laws dictating its physical reality.

(I answer this, assuming if it is not one of the defeated atheist coming with different name)

(1) You wrote "Perhaps nothing".

If nothing was before the BigBang, then how the BigBang (say, energy or matter) came into exist?

(2) You wrote "perhaps another universe or a different version of our own"

If another universe or a different version of our own existed before the BigBang, then who created these other universes? If you say, no one created the universes you mentioned, then where did those come from?

(3) You wrote "Perhaps a sea of universes each with a different set of laws dictating its physical reality."

If it is so, then whatever the laws may be or whatever its physical reality will be, how did it come into existence? i.e. who made all these universe with different set of laws than ours?

I said I didn't know that eternal energy was true, but that I believe it

Yes, I said that you believe it. Read clearly before answering it. That's why I always say "atheists are fools"; aren't you? When I said that you believe it, why do you say that I didn't said that and why use to tell things I didn't write it?

...so, your using of the word 'idiot' being not able to answer my questions just reflects your foolishness and despair; disappointment of failing to have the result ChuckHades 1 - 100 sunialpani from ChuckHades 0 - 100 sunialpani.

And as per my policy and the policy of the CreateDebate, there should not the place of using uncivilized words with despair. And this was a scientific debate. I didn't want to have religious debate; because the I do not have enthusiasm while I am always in the winning side. So, I thought you could have scored 1 against 100 in the scientific debate. But here also I find no enthusiasm. I hoped it to be ChuckHades 1 - 100 sunialpani. But it was unchanged. Moreover, you expressed your despair unable to answer my questions. So, as per my policy and the policy of the CreateDebate, I banned you here. I would have continued if you had not expressed your despair with uncivilized words.

I have provided a summary of M Theory

I do not want to write here more. Because other participants in the CreateDebate could read what you wrote about M Theory. So, let people read it and answer if you provided the Summary of M Theory. To your unfortune, you can not edit your post. So, there is no way of escaping. You can not add summary in the M Theory that you just mentioned. I do not astonished at your despair. Because not only yourself, but I see every atheist use to take revenge with uncivilized words after they lose to theists (not only in religious subjects, but in the subjects of science, math, culture etc.) and all these words reflects the backgrounds of your families, not mine.

Of course I'm not sure. It's just the most likely option right now.

You first said that, you believe energy. Next time you said that you are not sure. So, I came to know that you are not sure of things you believe? Therefore, when you say about something you believe is not reliable; because you are not sure about it. Right?

When the question is Please spoonfeed me M Theory because I'm too lazy to look it up myself, then yes.

...so when you are too lazy too mention the M Theory here in CreateDatabase, should it be taken into consideration that you have explained to M Theory to prove your argument? [please note that, explaining M Theory itself is not the answer to my question, but the M Theory must contain the right answer to my question; so, first explain the M Theory here in CreateDatabase and let me see if it explains the desired matter. But sadly, either you are too lazy to put M Theory here or you are getting fear to put the theory as you see nothing in it will be able to explain to have an valid/right answer to my question.)

yes, I do believe energy had no beginning. We are in the infancy of our understanding of a universe beyond our own, and for now, eternal energy is our best guess.

You said that you believe energy had (i.e. has) no beginning. But I ask you - "are you sure, energy has no beginning?"

If you want to know more, there's this thing called "the internet". Use it.

I ask you - "Is it right to refer other web pages or the Internet for our answer(s) to a question in CreateDebate? Please answer either with "yes" or "no"

My guess is that energy itself is infinite

Infinite means, there is no beginning. So, you say, energy has no beginning? Do you believe a something could come to exist without a beginning?

M-Theory is a theory in its infancy, so don't ask for mountains of evidence for it.

Do you think it rational to prove your statement just by saying "M-Theory". You didn't explain what the M-Theory that caused the Big Bang; and do you think it is sufficient just saying "M-Theory" without explaining this? Someone could mention X-Theory without mentioning what X-Theory is; isn't?

We don't know. Assuming there's gravity, then there is space there. But we don't know.

Yes, I honestly accept this answer of yours as you honestly answered it saying that you don't know.

The Big Bang

What caused the Big Bang, since there was nothing before the Big Bang i.e. is the Beginning. What's the force or energy that caused the Big Bang?

Space is 3 of our four observable dimensions

...then what's about the space beyond our observable dimensions?

And what you find is that the area still gives off energy

So, where do the energy come? When did it come to exist?

...why you are ready only to see an evidence to believe a thing? Don't you believe the virginity of your mom and don't I believe the virginity of my mom? And both of we believe in the virginity of our moms without a single evidence. So, while you (and myself too) believe the virginity of your mom without a single evidence, what makes you difficult to believe in the existence of Yaweh even without seeking evidence as in the case of your mom (and mine also)?

...so you want to say that the Universe is created of its own? If the Universe created of its own and science approves it, then I must praise the scientist that, they believe in existence of things out of nothing, as in the case of the Universe.

That's why I said, proof that, God is like tomatoes or potatoes.

Yes, everything needs a creator. But without doubt, God is an exception. If He will be in the dimension of time and space, then He is not God, but like a limited human being. Therefore, we can not imagine about God, as He is outside of the dimension of time and space, where we are limited with time and space. Is it possible to keep the whole water of ocean into a teaspoon? Imagining God is far more than that. It is impossible to think about the infinite God in our finite mind. So, God never created. He has no beginning; nor he has an end.

Without having the existence of the Creator, it is not possible to have such a world. The creation itself is the proof of the existence of God. You say, you are not an atheist; in the same time do not believe the existence of God. How it comes?

If you want proof, I will answer questions and answer it; automatically you will have the proof.

First I ask you two questions. Please answer.

(1) Do you believe your mom is (if alive)/was (if dead) loving you dad; no man is in her heart? If yes, how did you come to know and if no, how did you come to know about it?

(2) What's your opinion about the Universe? It has only two possibilities. (a) Someone created it (b) It created by its own.

Please answer both the question and gradually I'll be asking you some more question, so that you will have the proof. Because, the proof is not so short like (a+b)2 that I would explain in a sentence.

So, to get proof, please keep on answering me. Thanks

I am sure, it is one of the defeated atheists, may be Cuaroc now in different name. OK, proof that, the Universe created by its own. You might say, it created by the BigBang. So, let me ask you "What was there before the BigBang?" If your answer would be "no", then how could it be possible to happen something out of nothing? Please explain/prove the existence of the Universe i.e. how it began?

God has role in us, but in many cases, He doesn't interfere; He doesn't interfere in choosing or rejecting Him. You are getting angry with God. But the Bible states that, though God is merciful, He is also God of justice. Though God can forgive our sins (when we have faith in Him and confess) because of His mercy, He is also God of justice who can not allow an unrepentant sinner to inherit heaven. A real justice will not hesitate to hear the capital punishment of his/her son if the son is worthy to get. Therefore, God wouldn't allow an unrepentant sinner to heaven and send him to hell; because if He doesn't send the unrepentant sinner to hell, He is not God, as God has many attributes and justice is one among them. Lastly, the existence of hell and heaven has nothing to do with the beliefs of atheists like you. I am sure, you are not more intelligent than Albert Einstein, Isaac Newton, Blaise Pascal, Galileo Galilei, Johannes Kepler etc. are.

Oh, you are the same Cuaroc whom I defeated in all my previous posts? So, why did you call me coward? It is first time I heard a defeated man charging the winner with the word coward. Why are you so furious? It is not that, you will lose to me all the time. Be patient and see that, some day you may also win over me. Though it is impossible to win over me in the topics of Bible or God, I hope, you can win over me in other topics like politics, society etc. Why so disappointed and keeping on using useless words? The Bible says that education is started from home first. So, it seems that, you are brought up in that kind of family. Anyhow, CreateDebate is a platform for you. There are many gentle people here. You have many things to learn from them.

No, the Creator can not be the creation itself although the glory of His creation is found there.

The problem with many people is that, the Creator can not be God of the Bible. Okay, I don't want to go to Bible. I just say, there is a Creator and it may be X or Y or Z. My main point (here) is there is a Creator of the Universe Who doesn't have a beginning, nor will be His ending. I do not argue or force to accept anyone that, it is God of the Bible. You can say it is Allaha (if you are a Muslim), it is Buddha (if you are a Buddhist), you can say it is YHWH (if you are a Jew) or you can say it is Jesus (if you are a Christian). But there is a Creator as I stated above.

You said that, the Creator doesn't play role right now. It is a deep subject if I want to discuss from the Bible. The Bible says that, though He doesn't control (directly) somethings (not ALL) nothing happens without His knowledge. I already said that, He is out of the dimension of time and space. So, we can not imagine the so-called complicated things about God; just know, He is there. Please ask me one by one (in order to know; not to argue) so that, I can explain as far as my understanding. Thanks.

Can you please explain (as you heard or read or from your own understanding) how did the Universe come into existence? Did the Universe created of its own? Did something appeared out of nothing? Please answer this and I'll explain/ask you more.

I do not want to convert people. I just convince what the truth is. Conversion is with the individual I am convincing.

Second thing is I am going to present here one hard truth. You may or may not agree with me. But that is true. And the truth is - Catholics ignore the last words of our Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 28 last parts). So, it is a real Christian who would reach the Gospel to people unreached. So, people should hear the Gospel at least once. But Catholics are more concerned about social services. Yes, without charity, there is no Christianity. I know it. But without the Gospel also there is no meaning of Christianity.

So, those don't convince people (here non-Christians and atheists) about the Gospel will be responsible for his failure. Will not Jesus ask that day "Did you ever convince people, especially the atheists the truth?" So, be careful, otherwise, you will be disqualified for the Kingdom of God.

You are not the first atheist to introduce as a Catholic and speak ill of the Bible. There are many.

I say Atheist almost always believe with proof

(1) But atheists believe their spouses even without a single proof (please note, this is not applicable to theists, who believe many things even without a proof).

(2) Atheists believe in "dark matter" that is said to be exist by the scientists.

But there is actually evidence.

Evidence? Evidence for dark matter?