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Batman Captain America
Debate Score:20
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Batman Vs. Captain America

Who would win in a fight?

Batman

Side Score: 13
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Captain America

Side Score: 7
2 points

Both are great and perfectly matched in various ways, but there is a key difference that effects this outcome.

Batman fights with his brains, and Captain America fights with his heart.

Because of this, Captain America is a hero, and a protector, and even though he's trained to be just as much a paragon of martial combat as much as Batman, he doesn't automatically think of the smartest way to fight other then kicking ass with his bare hands in broad daylight.

Batman, on the other hand, is a much darker hero, whom has a heart, but restricts his feelings from getting in the way of fighting the most efficient way he can.

Batman would win in a fight with Captain America simply because Batman would cheat. He would attack the Captain at night with a sneak attack, or he would use his tools to set a trap, or something like that. If they fought in broad daylight, Captain might win because he's so much more direct, but the unfortunate fact about Batman is that he's a guerrilla fighter, and if he's not fighting you on his terms, he's not fighting you.

Side: Batman

Ok, so you are saying it would depend on the situtation, but batman would likely make sure that the situation is in his favor.

Side: Batman
chatturgha(1631) Clarified
1 point

Indeed.

The Steve Rogers I know would likely valiantly throw himself into such a situation on the chance he would be able to overcome an ambush... which, while heroic, isn't smart. And since both heroes are almost exactly the same, physically, I'd say it would be close, but Batman would use trickery to his advantage to win.

Bizarre way to put it, I know. We don't think of Batman as a 'cheater'. But what else is he when paired up with Steve Rogers?

Side: Batman
Srom(12206) Disputed
1 point

Batman fights with his brains, and Captain America fights with his heart.

Captain America fights with his brain as well because he is a soldier and he is a master of strategies on the battlefield.

Also with the super solider formula in his body he slowly can heal but batman is just a human and he heals naturally that can take weeks for him to go back to normal.

Captain America is much stronger than Batman because he is a super solider and its stronger than human strength and he also has more agility and knows all forms of hand to hand combat.

So Captain America could easily beat Batman and he has his shield that is made out of adamantium which is the strongest medal.

Batman would win in a fight with Captain America simply because Batman would cheat. He would attack the Captain at night with a sneak attack, or he would use his tools to set a trap, or something like that.

Captain America would look for traps because he is a soldier and he would for that kind of things before he would go in to a building or when he is in the building.

Batman, on the other hand, is a much darker hero, whom has a heart, but restricts his feelings from getting in the way of fighting the most efficient way he can.

Captain America put his feelings behind as well because he is at war and must fight for his country and do what it is right for the country.

Side: Captain America
chatturgha(1631) Disputed
1 point

Captain America fights with his brain as well because he is a soldier and he is a master of strategies on the battlefield.

From what I remember of Captain America, at least Steve Rogers, he isn't really a master strategist. He is more of the quick-thinking leader instead of one that sits back and plans out an entire battle strategy. He is a Captain, not a General.

So unlike Batman, Steve isn't likely to plan out an encounter. In fact, given the right motivation, Steve will heroically throw himself at an encounter without thinking. This was marvelously characterized in the newest Captain America movie where Steve, as a wimpy scrawny lad, jumps on top of a grenade which he and the other soldiers were fooled into thinking wasn't a dud.

Did he think about that? No. If it were a real grenade, he would have died. But instead, he went on quick intuition and did the heroic thing, not the smart thing.

Also with the super solider formula in his body he slowly can heal but batman is just a human and he heals naturally that can take weeks for him to go back to normal.

Well, sure, but is that pertinent to a fight between the two? Hm... well, maybe. Batman isn't going to go looking to fight Captain while he's injured, and Captain isn't going to go looking for Batman when Batman is injured either (not that an injured Batman can even be found).

But, I suppose in a long-term fight between the two of them, as in a fisticuffs skirmish that lasts... hours? I suppose in a situation like that, Steve would have more stamina, and therefore an edge. But the battle would have to drag out a VERY long time for Steve to receive a significant advantage from that over Wayne.

Captain America is much stronger than Batman because he is a super solider and its stronger than human strength and he also has more agility and knows all forms of hand to hand combat.

I'm not sure about necessarily 'stronger'. Captain is definitely a super-soldier, but relative to someone that trained in secret his entire life to be the strongest martial-artist and vigilante fighter there is, I'd say he and Batman are on equal terms when it comes to physical prowess... at least. I say at least because even though Steve is pretty trained, he hasn't trained his entire life... and you can pump yourself up on something that makes you a super soldier all you want, but that's not going to teach you all the fine delicacies of martial arts, especially when compared to someone who trained in said martial arts their whole life.

So Captain America could easily beat Batman and he has his shield that is made out of adamantium which is the strongest medal.

And Batman has a utility belt with every minor tool he could possibly need on it for a quick situation.

Are you really going to bring up Cap's shield? Because if we're going to judge this fight based upon tools, gadgets, and weapons, you're going to be very sorry to hear that Batman uses the power of money to essentially have every tool he'd need, ever... lol

Captain America would look for traps because he is a soldier and he would for that kind of things before he would go in to a building or when he is in the building.

Not if Batman tricked him. Steve can be easily swayed by his own feelings, you know.

If we're going to presume this fight happens on a basis of their usual style, we can only assume this fight will be fought on Batman's turf. Why? Because Batman is a trickster, shadow warrior, night warrior, guerrilla warrior, etc.

Assuming that Steve draws Wayne into broad daylight is completely uncharacteristic of Steve Rogers... but Bruce Wayne drawing Steve out into pitch nighttime is perfectly within Batman's characterization. Shit, it's even within Steve's characterization to spring traps just so he can try and overcome them!

So to assume that this isn't something that has a significant chance to work in Batman's favor is to assume the fight will not happen at all.

Captain America put his feelings behind as well because he is at war and must fight for his country and do what it is right for the country.

Lol, no.

Captain America does everything because of how he feels.

He has to pucker up and resist being sad when he looses a man because he feels things so powerfully that mourning a lost team member would disabled him for the rest of the mission... which isn't too different from Bruce Wayne.

But the difference, ultimately, is how they react to their emotions. It takes a LOT to provoke Batman. He has a heart, but he is constantly taking steps back when he feels something strong so that he can get an objective look at things. Steve? No... he does nothing of the sort. Steve presses on past emotions, of course, but he immediately acts as opposed to waiting, watching, and considering things.

If this fight were to happen for some reason, it would be within the boundaries of both characters for Batman to try and trick Steve into coming out at night, and then Steve falling for the trick because he easily is prone to act based upon how he feels.

Be it as it may, that just makes sense. It happening any other way doesn't make sense.

Side: Batman

I say batman, because unlike captain america, he actually worked hard to get his body to peak physical form, (captian america just took steroids).

Also, while both batman and captain america are capable leaders, batman himself is like a one man army, which he has to be to face the villains of Gotham.

Side: Batman
1 point

Batman's cooler he makes his own things and has bat mobile How is that not cool! All Captain america is, is strong and has a shield not overly amazing to get that work out and make a shield :P

Side: Batman
Oiden(395) Disputed
1 point

Coolness dosen't matter. Because the Mustang looks cool dosen't mean its a good car.

The Bat Mobile can be taken out easily and Captain America's strength would beat the Bat once he gets out. You are not looking at the whole picture. If Batman came with his car Capt. America would get off the street and in a building and draw him in.

Upclose Capt. America would win.

Side: Captain America
Vermink(1944) Disputed
1 point

Maybe so but batman is more creative he makes his own weapons and suits. All captain america does is run around with super strengh and throws shields at people. It's also the reason I like ironman a lot 'cause he makes his own suits and weapons.

Side: Batman

Very comic book enthusiast knows that superhero fights always results in a tie, but since Batman is my favorite superhero, Batman would win because of his intellect and gadgets.

Side: Batman
1 point

I've seen this debate so many time and i thought i'd leave my opinion this time . Captain america has an advantage when it comes in strength, speed and agility. Batman has an advantage when it comes to a wide array of weaponry. Both are great fighters who have mastered multiple fighting style though one thing separates them, the captain would approach a fight like a soldier while the bat would fight like a ninja. The cap is more of a head on fighter with his shield as his common weapon. Bats is more of a combination of short to long range fighter though he prefers long range when fighting foes who are stronger than him. When it comes to martial arts technique id put them equal. The only way to settle this fight is to imagine them fight, both at their best fighting each other. And i think the bat would always come on top no matter wha, here's why: i know captain america has an indestructible shield, and his fans would say, he has dodged bullets why cant he dodge batarangs. His shield's size allows him to cover from his chest down to his waist, if he puts it up to his head he can barely cover is entire upper body leaving a part of his belly and legs wide open. I dont know why caps foes keep on aiming at his shield well in fact they know it can't be destroyed . Its like his enemies are saying "hey look its captain america and his shield, but wait a huge part of his body is not coverdd by shield, lets aim for it, but wait, screw it, lets just aim for the shield and hopefully it breaks before he can attack us". Captains opponents keep on doing this stupid form of attack over and over again which batman wont. Batman is like a doctor. He will break down his opponents and attacks at all angles.it's what he always does specially with opponents stronger than him. HRemember that a bullethas one direction and its going straigth, though its fast, it can be dodged specially if u are captain But batarNg can change in direction depending in how batman throws it .he throws smoke bomba, 2 common batarangs, 3 grenades at ur feet and more explsive batarang either going to ur side or going past u and returns back to strike ur back and more electric batarangs. He also throws ice pellets nd electric pellets or flash bombs or even gadgets that produce sonic waves.put in grappling hooks, ropes and nets. He can do these thing in different sets of combinations evrytime. Now tell me how can captain even block those with a shield that covers a minimal part of the body? Captain maybe strong, but he's not superhuman at all, if a bomb explodes at him, it will hurt him.all weapons in batmans arsenal willk hurt him or could kill captain if batman wants to. If the fight gets close batman has electric knuckles and therfore equalizing captains strenght advantage. Dont exaggerate captains strenght, he's no superman at all and batman is not a wimpy kid, hes at the peak of human strenght, the best any human can attain. Captain may have faced lots of enemies and is highly experienced, but this time he is facing a ninja. I dont know if he has faced a ninja before in the comics but even if he did, batman is the best ninja he will face so the captain is really gonna have a hard time though he is a soldier. The shield when thrown is dangerous but batman is so good that he can learn the trajectory of it in the course of the fight. Thats what he does, he breaksdown and studies even during a fight. Even if batman gets hit by it, its not gonna put him down. He may get grazed(which hurts still but wont knock him out. Besides he has armor that will minimize damage. In case he gets hit (if he will be hit) i dont think he will allow it twice. He will find a way to hinder the trajectory of the shiel so it wont return to captain or hit batman he can do it by throwing a batarang or anything and a slight change of the way the shield is flying can change the whole trajectory. Besides, a couple of times the shield didnt return to captain specially when he fought tough opponents. He tend to find a way to go and Get the shield back which batman wont allow it. And how cud captain get it if he's getting a barrage of attacks from batman. If the fight take place in the night or in some strange building or in a jungle full of trees, the captain wont stand a chance. Batman will use the environment to his advantage. Thats what he does best. If the battlefield is a plain arena, captain has a beter chance but batman will still win . His wide range of weapons is too much for a single shield. Batman doesnt need to destroy it. He only needs to negate it. So sorry captain.

Another thing, batman also has this booster type of gadget that send people flying like that in 'under the red hood' and justice league war. So, once again lesser chance for captain. Maybe not even a chance

Some may even argue bout bane breaking batmans back. Take note that bane in the comics and cartoons is much stronger than captain. In the dark knight rises, batman is way past his prime and hasnt fought in 8 yrs. but one thing is the same and that is batman came back and has beaten bane in all their succeeding meetings. Thats why batman wud be very careful in approachng captain since he is stronger and is well prepared

Side: Batman

Batman has more prowess than Captain America and he has faster movement.

Side: Batman
1 point

Captain America because Batman is only a human person in a costume that has gears but Captain America is a super soldier and knows hand to hand combat plus he has his adamantium shield which never breaks. All Batman has his gadgets, martial arts, and detective skills.

Side: Captain America
wardogninja(1789) Clarified
1 point

But both batman and captain america are at the peak human condition, so they are equal in condition. True Cap's shield would help him, but it can only defend in one direction. Batman can use his ninja skills to attack captian america from mutiable sides without letting him now where he is.

Side: Batman
Srom(12206) Disputed
1 point

They aren't at human condition because Captain America can heal quickly because he is a super soldier where as Batman he is a human and if he gets really injured it might take weeks in order to heal or recover.

Yes Cap's shield is only in one direction but he can throw his shield in different angles because he knows how to throw his shield.

Captain America knows all forms of hand to hand combat and Batman only know a couple.

Side: Batman
1 point

I think you just described the master cheif from the halo series

Side: Captain America

Without his gadgets Batman is just a dude in tights. Captain America has vast military and combat knowledge and all the strength and agility. Batmans just a rich guy.

Side: Captain America
1 point

Batman would loose. He is good upclose and when he can control the battlefeald. Otherwise he isn't all too powerful. Captain America would win. He can think on the dot faster and, unlike the bat, can heal himself.

Side: Captain America