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Yes! No!
Debate Score:69
Arguments:40
Total Votes:90
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Does Israel have a right to exist?

Yes!

Side Score: 42
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No!

Side Score: 27
3 points

Yes Israel has a right to exist. And to do so peacefully. Questioning Israel’s very “right to exist” is a well-employed tool of Israel’s detractors to call into question the Jewish state’s legitimacy as part of an effort to undermine her.

Side: Yes!
2 points

Agreed and well said !

Side: Yes!
2 points

Merci mon ami! ~) I have my moments of lucidity. This is one topic that brings it out.

Side: Yes!
garry77777(1794) Disputed
2 points

Ya that very coherent load of bullshit, Isreals legitamacy is called in question because it was founded on the eviction of millions of palestians who still live as refugees in camps in places like lebanon. You can't hide the extreme bias you hold that easily, even when your trying to.

Isreal is currently one th greatest terrorits nations on earth(topped only by the US of course), to deny this is to deny reality. Good day.

Side: No!
DarleneJ(201) Disputed
1 point

Hide my bias. About as well as you hide yours. Israel a terrorists nation...what a crock of bullshit. Palestinians reap what they sow. They are not interested in peace. They are suckled and raised to hate everything and everyone Jewish. While thousands of Arabs live and thrive in Israel. Palestine's worst enemy is themselves.

Side: Yes!
BlackSheep(203) Disputed
1 point

What about the right of the Palestinians to do so? They were simply displaced and unsupported by the UK and the UN even though it went against UN laws.

Side: No!
3 points

Who are we to say if a nation doesn't have a right to exist?

Side: Yes!
BlackSheep(203) Disputed
1 point

What about Palestine, including the land Israel was built on.

Side: No!
2 points

Absolutely Israel has every right to exist and exist next door to a sovereign, democratic Palestine.

Side: Yes!
garry77777(1794) Disputed
4 points

I agree with you completely on this, completely (Jesus i didnt think id be typing this to you, perhaps i judged you too quickly). Answer me this question, exactly what do you mean when you say sovereign, democratic palestine. In my mind that means the right to all the land accquired by Isreal in the June 1967 war, complete removal of all settlers, granting of a full Palestinian state with east Jeruselem as its capital and the amending of Isreali law to grant any palestian living in Isreal the same rights as any Jew.

BTW: Sorry bout the disputed, im just so used to clicking it.

Side: No!
Hellno(17753) Disputed
2 points

Yes, the 1967 borders, all Israel settlements (and walls) out of those borders... it's only fair that they should be allowed to have East Jerusalem as their capital. However I don't think Israel has to allow the Palestinians who left Israel, come back, but the ones still there should be able to stay and after a reasonable amount of time and peace, then yes, the Palestinians living in Israel should be granted the same right as Jews

Side: Yes!

Let me set you anti-Israel goat fuckers straight on this.

There exists in Rome Italy, a monument called the Arch Of Titus.

It shows the sacking and looting of the Jewish Temple in AD 70 by roman legions under Titus.

For those of you Arab cock sucking traitors who say otherwise, (that there was never a temple), I humbly offer this proof to you boy buggering , nut gnawers.

May you all die with tree limbs in your asses, I spit on you all.

Side: Yes!
0 points

Israel is completely legitimate. It has a legal basis in the British Mandate, in addition to the UN Partition Plan. Furthermore, a large Jewish population had been settling there since the 1800s. The fact that terrorist organizations dominate the region and provide the only alternative to the democratic Israeli government further establishes Israeli legitimacy.

Side: Yes!
BlackSheep(203) Disputed
1 point

I put human rights higher than the legality of how it was formed.

Side: No!
3 points

From my understanding of Israel's history, which i admit is minimal, it would be similar to if Russia would of took the usa over, then before they gave back the land took a large portion of it and gave it to native Americans, many of which where actually from south America, armed them to the teeth, etc.

I think most Americans would agree that they would want to resurrect America, and view the state set up by Russia and other foreigners as obstacles to that goal. Probably spouting about how such a state should not exist, doesn't have the right to exist, etc etc. Really, whats the significant differences between Palestine and the hypothetical America I just laid out?

Side: No!

I agree completely with this, i think your anology is quite insightful but you have to realise that Isreal is here to stay, thats why i my orginal argument was on the yes side, its not because i think Isreal actually has some God given right or becuause way back in history they controlled some of the land, its because they are they to stay.They aint goin anywhere so we might as well acknowledge the reality of the State of Isreal.

Side: No!
1 point

despite what people will say about me, i think palestine has the right to have land returned to them

Side: No!
1 point

The Zionists formed Israel with the blessing of the UN and the UK, but no one seemed to take the Palestinian point of view into consideration. Their land was taken and then people call them terrorists for fighting to take it back.

Even many Jews are against Israel.

Side: No!
0 points

It's currently upon stolen land.

This isn't the first time it's been stolen either, the Zionists have done this before.

Side: No!
garry77777(1794) Disputed
2 points

Agreed, the land did not belong to Isreal orignally and they should at the very least allow the palestian people the land they accquired in June 1967.

Side: Yes!
KaiserDenEU(10) Disputed
0 points

"Stolen Land" Well sir are you farmiliar with conquer's justice no land stays in the same hands for ever

The Romans one had all of Europe in their hand and they lost, now test your own logic does the roman empire instantly deserve their lands because they have a "significant connection to the land" absolutely not. Germany lost lands that were pure german for almost 2000 years to russia and poland (prussia, pommerania silesia etc)

and stop with this zionist crap you just sound like a biggot, bottom line land changes DEAL WITH IT. The nation with a strong army always wins over the nation with a weak one history proves such

Side: Yes!