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If You Agree With Corporal Punishment, Then You Agree With Domestic Violence


Both applications adhere to the notion of physical punishment as being a means of correcting perceived misbehavior.

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The actual notion that agreeing with one means you agree with the other is untrue but the fact that allowing one makes a household much more prone to explode into the latter is where the truth lies.

Domestic violence often takes the guise of punishment in the eyes of the abuser. If we outlaw any physical punishment to anyone else then the physicality itself is what makes it wrong and negates any possibility of domestic violence being seen as morally correct.

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Harvard(660) Disputed
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The actual notion that agreeing with one means you agree with the other is untrue but the fact that allowing one makes a household much more prone to explode into the latter is where the truth lies.

Physical punishment as a mechanism to correct perceived misbehavior is present in both situations, which means that, if you agree with one, you would necessarily agree with other.

Domestic violence often takes the guise of punishment in the eyes of the abuser.

So does corporal punishment, which is why both are reprehensible.

If we outlaw any physical punishment to anyone else then the physicality itself is what makes it wrong and negates any possibility of domestic violence being seen as morally correct.

The physical aspect is what is (subjectively) wrong and objectively harmful with no long-term benefits. Physical punishment is merely painful classical conditioning.

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instig8or(3308) Disputed
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Hmm...I don't think we can accurately claim that a drunken husband giving his wife a black eye for burning his steak is on the same level as a sober and loving father spanking his 8 year-old son for disobeying his direct rules and playing tag on a busy street among traffic.

As the latter is a sincere attempt by a caring parent to teach his child not to engage in behavior which has a good chance to harm him.

And the former is a belligerent bully's selfish acting-out for not getting exactly what he wants.

Not to mention the fact that the former IS a crime an ALL states, while the latter is not.

And your headline also made a valid differentiation: the words "Punishment" and "Violence" ARE speaking to differing levels of behavior-correcting tactics. You will notice we do not refer to a spanking as "corporal violence."

And no....I do NOT have to agree with both actions. And I do not. While I'm a staunch opponent of domestic violence (I once went to jail for intervening in a case of it) I usually don't see any harm in the sort of spanking I described above.

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Very untrue. There is a large difference between beating and spanking for correction. Don't get me wrong, you shouldn't spank your child for small infractions however there are times when time out's and repeated talking to's just don't get through and if it's something that could affect the health of the child it's very important to get the lesson through. If you are going to spank your child you should never do it out of anger, give yourself some time to cool off.

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