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Debate Score:64
Arguments:39
Total Votes:75
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Is an additional tax on indoor tanning services justifiable?

Tan Tax

Congress increased taxes by imposming 10% tax on individuals receiving indoor tanning services was tacked on, and the initiative is expected to generate $2.7 billion over ten years.

This tax on included in the new health care bill passed by the liberal Democrats and signed by President Obama.

YES

Side Score: 29
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NO

Side Score: 35
2 points

Using tanning booths is just downright unhealthy. Any counterincentive to tanning is great.

Side: yes
2 points

It doesn't matter, eating fast food, junk food, drinking soda or alcohol, smoking cigarettes, skiing and crashing into a tree are all unhealthy.

This is just ridiculous.

Side: No
JayAr(182) Disputed
2 points

then tax those as well...

It would force people to become healthier and/or give the government implementing it a boost.

However I am starting to become suspicious that people don't understand the value of tax.

Side: yes
2 points

You have to pay for stuff. There is a direct correlation between tanning beds and cancer... thus the need for healthcare, and so makes sense to tax it in a Healthcare bill. More, prior to this Tanning Beds were one of the few unhealthy things one could do with little to no tax. Ex there's a large tax on smoking, alcohol, etc.

And it is curious that the same ones who constantly cry about the deficit, continue crying when government pays for something... actually it's not curious, kind of expected at this point, but worth pointing out.

Side: yes
1 point

You have to pay for stuff

Health care should be paid on a individual basis. It is a product and shouldn't be subsidized.

Guess what, there is a direct correlation between tanning outdoors and cancer, should they be taxed?

I don't use tanning beds nor tan outdoors, but those who do use tanning beds and don't pay health care on individual basis, yet they get health care at a discount or free on the backs of those who do use tanning beds and have health care and those who don't use tanning beds.

Side: No
iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
1 point

There you go thinking everyone on earth is a millionaire again.

1. Maybe 1% of humans on earth can "pay" for cancer treatment, hence insurance.

2. Insurance companies have a monopoly in this country which has lead to the worst and most expensive healthcare in the industrialized world.

3. Therefore, government enforcing options for healthcare is a great idea.

4. Taxing on things which may lead to expensive treatments later is a great way to "insure" later treatment - since half the people who get cancer wind up on the governments tab anyway when they wait till the last minute to go to an ER

Side: yes
4 points

No because Obama said he would not raise anyone's taxes (not one dime) making under $250,000 dollars.

If you want to raise taxes, run on raising taxes.

If you say you won't just to get elected, that is not justified.

Side: No
brycer2012(1002) Disputed
3 points

He is not raising taxes on someone's income. So, technically, he is still holding his word.

Side: yes
Scumbarge(116) Disputed
1 point

How the hell is taxing a particular commodity breaking his promise about INCOME TAXES?

Side: yes
MegaDittos(571) Disputed
1 point

He didn't say I won't raise your income tax one dime,it was "ANY" taxes.

I am glad you admit the health care bill has new taxes.We had to pass the bill to find out what was in it.

ANY TAX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Side: No
1 point

NO. It's racist against white people because only white people use such tanning services. Therefore, such a tax is UNFAIRLY TARGETING WHITES, and OBAMA IS A RACIST.

Side: No
brycer2012(1002) Disputed
1 point

How is it racist? Why can't those people just use the sun like everyone else?

Side: yes
MegaDittos(571) Disputed
3 points

"Why can't those people just use the sun like everyone else?"

Why can't we all use horses or bicycles rather than cars??????

When are people going to realize that the goverment takes OUR money and gives it back only if we act how they want us to.

The goverment wants to take more of your money if you tan....that is not what a goverment is supposed to do.

And to add insult, those who don't tan,smoke,etc say yeah tax them not knowing that when you allow them to tax others to control them, eventually they want your money also.

Freedom....... when you try to take someone else's you give up yours also,eventually.

Side: No
iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
1 point

... you're an idiot.

1. Obama is half black, was raised by white people, in Hawaii which is almost all Asian, it would be nearly impossible for him to be racist even if he tried... and you're an idiot.

2. Anyone is allowed to use a tanning bed if they want, it is not segregated, that mostly white people do is inconsequential. For instance, is taxing gas racist against people who drive cars? No it isn't, and you're an idiot.

3. There is a direct correlation between tanning beds, and cancer, which means later in life those who tan are more likely to need very expensive treatment, and so it makes perfect sense to tax it in a Healthcare bill... and you're an idiot.

Side: yes
Troy8(2433) Disputed
0 points

For instance, is taxing gas racist against people who drive cars? No it isn't, and you're an idiot.

I don't think people who drive cars are a race.

Side: No

There are way too many pasty white people out there. They should get a tax credit for tanning ;)

Side: No

It seems to me that the government, not content with merely providing health advice, is now trying to directly influence people's behaviour. In this regard I believe that it has overstepped its authority. If people wish to use sunbeds then that is their right, regardless of the effects on their health. In relation to sunbeds, I think legislation limiting the amount of time one can spend inside is far fairer, as opposed to taxing it. However, this is not about health, this is about money, as per usual.

Side: No