POLL: November Election check-up 1
Disclaimer: This debate is going to be heavly monitered by others. Your words reflect your persona. If at anytime you make yourself look like a complete buffoon, I have no part in it. YOU chose your words and vocabulary.
This is a poll with the assumption that there will be a fired up debate. many people will be fighting over the republican or democratic president. If you all haven't notice... I am Independent and I dislike both parties and if I vote for either canidates, I would probably need to refer to this poll. YES, I know this site is very conservative but I don't give a damn a single response will make a difference. In all, I am sure this debate is going and will have fights so enter at your own risk and remember the disclaimer above.
AFFIRM: Romney
Side Score: 11
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AFFIRM: Obama
Side Score: 20
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AFFIRM: Gary Johnson 2012 Romney: Crony-Capitalist You like him cause he's not Obama. You like him cause he's not a Democrat. You like him cause you watch Fox. Obama: Crony-Socialist You like him cause he's not Romney. You like him cause he's not a Republican. You like him cause you watch CNN. Side: AFFIRM: Romney
forgot msnnbc for Obama (Al Sharpton) But, this Gary guy will have a very hard time getting his advertizement out. Electoral votes most likely go for people whom had snared the spot light till the fortune has finally emerge to their favor which would be Obama or romney. For me, if Romney gets in office expect the Zombie Acopaplyse. if Obama comes in office expect Old people living till 2000 years old then die from too much healthcare paper work. Side: AFFIRM: Romney
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Yeah, CNN is pretty much down the middle. Fox is so far right that the middle looks left. MSNBC is the only thing comparable within the mainstream as far as partisan... I mean, they deal in facts at MSNBC, and admit their commentators' leaning, which is absolutely nothing close to what Fox does, But from a strictly liberal/ conservative perspective, MSNBC is the only thing. Side: AFFIRM: Obama
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Here are 2 reasons to vote for Gary Johnson rather than Ron Paul: 1. Only 10 states will accept Ron Paul as a write in. 2. Gary Johnson has said that if he was elected he would without a doubt make Ron Paul his vice president. We should get Gary Johnson and Ron Paul in the white house and these crony politicans out. Side: AFFIRM: Romney
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What has Obama done to substantially hurt the American people. I just get to flustered when people says he is "forcing" his obamacare. Dammit, I am independent but if Romney is president, I am packing my bags and heading to China. I want to learn more about Confucianism in economics and China's native culture. Maybe even learn how to make oriental dumplings. Side: AFFIRM: Romney
President Barack Obama: President Obama makes Judicial Watch’s “Ten Most Wanted” list for a fifth consecutive year. (The former Illinois Senator was also a “Dishonorable Mention” in 2006.) And when it comes to Obama corruption, it may not get any bigger than Solyndra. Solyndra was once known as the poster child for the Obama administration’s massive “green energy” initiative, but it has become the poster child for the corruption that ensues when the government meddles in the private sector. Solyndra filed for bankruptcy in September 2011, leaving 1,100 workers without jobs and the American taxpayers on the hook for $535 million thanks to an Obama administration stimulus loan guarantee. Despite the Obama administration’s reticence to release details regarding this scandal, much is known about this shady deal. White House officials warned the president that the Department of Energy’s loan guarantee program was “dangerously short on due diligence,” nonetheless the Obama administration rushed the Solyndra loan through the approval process so it could make a splash at a press event. The company’s main financial backer was a major Obama campaign donor named George Kaiser. While the White House said Kaiser never discussed the loan with White House officials, the evidence suggests this is a lie. And, further demonstrating the political nature of the Obama administration’s activities, the Energy Department pressured Solyndra to delay an announcement on layoffs until after the 2010 elections. Despite the public outrage at this scandalous waste of precious tax dollars, President Obama continues to defend the indefensible and has refused to sack anyone over the Solyndra mess. President Obama continues to countenance actions by his appointees that undermine the rule of law and constitutional government: Despite a ban on funding that Obama signed into law, his administration continues to fund the corrupt and allegedly defunct “community” organization ACORN. In July 2011 Judicial Watch uncovered a $79,819 grant to AHCOA (Affordable Housing Centers of America), the renamed ACORN Housing which has a long history of corrupt activity. In absolute violation of the funding ban, Judicial Watch has since confirmed that the Obama administration has funneled $730,000 to the ACORN network, a group that has a long personal history with President Obama.In 2011, JW released a special report entitled “The Rebranding of ACORN,” which details how the ACORN network is alive and well and well-placed to undermine the integrity of the 2012 elections – evidently with the assistance of the Obama administration. Barack Obama apparently believes it is his “prerogative” to ignore the U.S. Constitution and the rule of law when it comes to appointing czars. According to Politico: “President Barack Obama is planning to ignore language in the 2011 spending package that would ban several top White House advisory posts. Obama said this ban on “czars” would undermine “the President’s ability to exercise his constitutional responsibilities and take care that the laws be faithfully executed.” In other words, Barack Obama believes he must ignore the U.S. Constitution to protect the U.S. Constitution. Many Obama administration czars have not been subject to confirmation by the U.S. Senate as required by the U.S. Constitution. In 2011, JW released a first-of-its-kind comprehensive report on the Obama czar scandal, entitled “President Obama’s Czars.” In an historic victory for Judicial Watch and an embarrassing defeat for the Obama White House, a federal court ruled on August 17, 2011 that Secret Service White House visitor logs are agency records that are subject to disclosure under the Freedom of Information Act. U.S. District Judge Beryl Howell issued the decision in Judicial Watch v. Secret Service. The Obama administration now will have to release all records of all visitors to the White House – or explain why White House visits should be kept secret under the law. The Obama White House continues to fight full disclosure and has stalled the release of records by appealing the lower court decision.(Judicial Watch gave Obama a “failing grade” on transparency in testimony before Congress in 2011. (Read the testimony in full as well as additional congressional testimony during a hearing entitled “White House Transparency, Visitor Logs and Lobbyists.”)) In 2011, the Obama National Labor Relations Board sought to prevent the Seattle-based Boeing Company from opening a $750 million non-union assembly line in North Charleston, South Carolina, to manufacture its Dreamliner plane. Judicial Watch obtained documents from the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) showing this lawsuit was politically motivated. Judicial Watch uncovered documents showing NLRB staff cheerleading for Big Labor, mouthing Marxist, anti-American slurs and showing contempt for Congress related to the agency’s lawsuit against Boeing, including email correspondence attacking members of Congress. And it starts at the top. Obama bypassed Congress and recess-appointed Craig Becker, who is connected to the AFL-CIO, the SEIU and ACORN, to the NRLB. Obama’s corrupt Chicago dealings continued to haunt him in 2011.Obama’s real estate partner, campaign fundraiser and Obama pork recipient Antoin “Tony” Rezko was finally sentenced to jail this year as was former Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich, who is now set to serve 14 years for attempting to sell Obama’s former Senate seat to the highest bidder. The FBI continues to withhold from Judicial Watch documents of its historic interview of then-Senator Obama about the Illinois corruption scandal. The FBI interview was conducted in December, 2008, about one month before Obama was sworn into the presidency. Side: AFFIRM: Romney
>< Copy and pasted from here http://www.judicialwatch.org/ Just copy and paste the link next time so I don't have to google which psycho conspiracy bs you're parroting. Here's just a few of the shenanigans they've been up to: And check them out on wikipedia, you can see their funding and whatnot to see where they are coming from. It's just a propaganda machine trying to disguise itself as non-partisan by every now and then publishing something about a corrupt Republican so when they're called out for all of the lies about democrats they can say "No, see we investigate republicans too!" --yeah dude, you "investigate" them after they've been thrown under the bus by the party and actual proof of corruption has been uncovered. Meanwhile you just make up bullshit about the party you disagree with. Side: AFFIRM: Obama
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I'm going to do something that Obama supporters seem to have forgotten how to do, list some of the great things that Obama's done: Signed the stimulus into effect, largely considered very effective, and put America back on track to positive growth, outperforming much of the developed world (compare it to the austerity policies and negative growth of Europe ...) Passed the Dodd-Frank act, reforming the banking sector to end the behaviours that contributed/caused the crash Repealed DADT, which hasn't negatively effected the military, only made gay's lives better Designed and passed Obamacare, giving healthcare to the tens of millions that are unable to afford it, and streamlined other aspects of healthcare & health insurance Doubled renewable energy production, and ended dependence on foreign energy, turning the US into a net exporter of energy Rescued the Auto-industry, saving hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs, and saving multi-billion dollar businesses from bankruptcy Ended the war in Iraq (a qualifier may be necessary there) and has pledged to end the war in Afghanistan as soon as was possible, and has worked with Afghan government and military and police to meet this goal Passed the Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, giving fair pay to all, regardless of gender Has greatly improved the foreign perception of the USA around the world, and improved relationships with many states around the world ----------------- On what issues here does Romney say he can do better? His only running point is the economy, and there, he has 2 claims: First of all, he passed a health insurance mandate in Massachusetts, one of the first in the country Finally, he is not Barack Obama ----------------- If you have any questions about either candidate, please ask. Side: AFFIRM: Obama
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What do you think about Obama signing a four year extension of the patriot act and the NDAA? As a president, Obama is only able to either pass, or veto, any act. This is very important for many things that are blamed on the president. For example, the NDAA is just the name for the federal bill which sets the budget & financial allocations of this for the US military. It also occasionally modifies the role of the military. 2012 was such a year. Obama was unable to prevent the indefinite detention without vetoing the entire budget of the US military - he made the right decision. Although recent events have shown that his administration does support it, the original shock and horror was irrational, and just showed that people did not understand the role of the President. In regards to the Patriot Act, Wikipedia clearly shows that Obama only approved three parts, two which need court approval, and a third which only applies to non-US citizens. I don't agree with the bill as a whole, and Obama's actions, but it is nowhere near as bad on his part as some claim. And by the way, he didn't give health care to those who can't afford it, he just forced everyone to buy it regardless of whether they want it or not. .. and gave subsidies to those unable to afford it, so that they were able? That sounds like he's giving health care to those that cannot afford it. And I can think of very few people who are able to afford health insurance, yet choose not to. It's an attack on rights only from a symbolic perspective, not an actual perspective. Side: AFFIRM: Obama
Even the most conserative republican knows that romney is a shit canidate. I wasn't suprise that they wouldn't give up. Romney is frankly the guy who made the baseball team and did well till we see how crappy he really is. Obama, at least, isn't a complete nut like Romney. He HAS done something during his presidency. I don't care if everyone says he hasn't done anything. If anything he has done more than needed! Yet, Obama made too many promises which he didn't meet but can do if he gets a second term. Side: AFFIRM: Obama
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Even the most conserative republican knows that romney is a shit canidate. No he isn't, he's not Obama! ROMNEY 2012 woooo Yet, Obama made too many promises which he didn't meet but can do if he gets a second term. Personally, I think that 2008 America needed some big promises. They needed to be lifted out of their slump, they needed some hope, and more than anything, they needed all three branches of the government to work together to make their lives better. Obama could only deliver two of those things, and fight for the third. Which he did. Side: AFFIRM: Obama
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As some one from Ireland living in the UK, I just thought you may be intrested in an across the pond point of view, I don't know. I'd just like to start by saying both parties from this perspective, are right wing, more so than our conservative party. Obviously for us, it's better if a Democrat stays in the White House, as your foreign policies are associated with the UK. Democrats, seem less concerned about god and more about people, This would be ultra important in the UK, as the media would constantly question whom they where taking their marching orders from. GOD did not vote for them, we did and every individual has diffrent views on what god wants! The republicans issued a series of total lies at their national convention, why is that not important to anyone? why are facts, apparently, not an issue? fact checkers are now just anti-republican? How can you trust them if they tell out right lies from the word go? Romney has a great record for creating wealth, but none of his companies create jobs, nothing that can be exported, switzerland and the cayman islands don't count. Mitch McConnell is on record for saying "The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president,”. Now correct me if I'm wrong but isn't The single most important thing a politician wants to achieve is whats best for his electorate. Even if that means working in a bipartisan way to solve the country's most pressing issues, not a four year vendetta against the White house. that just hurts the countries reputation. Now the democrats are far from fantastic, any refrence to politifact.com or factcheck.org can show that. But they stack up much better than the GOP. And they seem to be much more willing to compromise for the sake of the country. Obama will always have the uperhand over Romney in terms of been in touch with the common man, he has been the common man. And Romney will never be able to relate to this or to their day to day problems. Side: AFFIRM: Obama
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I plan on voting for Obama or a 3rd party candidate. There is this website called Political Compass, and according to that site my views line up best with Obama. With that being said, Obama and I still have differing views on quite a few things. He is definitely the better choice for me between the two. Another thing, I am completely disgusted by the amount of deception thrown about by the Romney campaign and republicans in general. Now, I do realize that both sides throw out propaganda against the other side, but in my experience it appears as if the Romney campaign and the republicans in general appear to throw out far more propaganda than the Obama administration. Your experience may be different than mine, perhaps in your experience the Democrats and Obama are the ones who throw out more lies and propaganda than the Republicans. I'm making no factual claims, I'm only stating what I've personally seen from both sides. Side: AFFIRM: Obama
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Hey, could you put a link to your results for your Political Compass test? Side: AFFIRM: Romney
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I'm glad you took the time to visit that site and take the test. Maybe I'll post a debate about this and ask people to post their X,Y scores. I got -2.38, -5.69 Side: AFFIRM: Obama
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