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He does worthless debates. Let's make this a nice site! We want mature debates, such as history! history such as Nikola Tesla! Mature debates such as European politics!
How selfish of you! You decide that " oh he hasn't done anything wrong for me, so he must be OK." I know this is an exaggeration, but it's the same principal as" Hey, Hitler never did anything wrong for me, so I don't think we should hate him."
Actually that's perfectly sound judgement. When one does not know about evil, how can they truly call it evil.
SHououtloud has found another user to be evil, yet you disagree proving evil has no true meaning. So for you to call Bikini evil, but not dana for the same reason shout did, makes you seem selfish.
The point is, jungleson called out shout for being 'wrong' for finding you to be evil, but not finding Bikini to be evil. Whereas shout's reason for finding you to be evil are based off of assumptions and data he discovered about you, but those reasons are different than the reasons jungelson learned.
Jungleson does not know if you are evil so he says you are not, but calls shout wrong for saying bikini is not evil, because shout does not know bikini.
Oh, I like being talked about :) I don't call Dana 'evil' nor do I call prodigee evil. However, Dana does not post annoying debates constantly and does not troll everyone else's. And I called Shoutout wrong because he was defending him without doing any research on him. Just blindly saying " He's fine" when he had no idea.
True, but calling shout wrong for not knowing, is in fact wrong. If you don't know, that doesn't make you wrong. Not to mention evil, good, bad, or whatever term you want to call it is subjective.
Guess who doesn't think prodigee is annoying. Prodigee.
Oh gosh .. I am so sorry for my selfishness, how selfish of me to not wish to report BikiniLover.
I haven't witnessed anything Bikinilover does, you made a debate about whether or not to report Bikinilover, without giving any reasons or explanation for the debate. So I just answered a simple question - should we mass report Bikinilover.
You are welcome to tell me why I should wish to report Bikinilover.
" Hey, Hitler never did anything wrong for me, so I don't think we should hate him."
Well that's the thing, I don't think we should hate Hitler. He did something very wrong and stupid and we should not follow his path, but I don't hate Hitler.
"Bikinilover has not annoyed me, harassed me or anything else that could make me report him/her."
Tame as it may be, you are defending him. I say he should be reported for all the shit he has given everyone here, and you say we shouldn't because he has done nothing to you.
Yes because I haven't witnessed any of ''the stuff'' he/she has done here.
If you could give me some examples of what you are talking about, I could agree with you. But I haven't participated in any debates where Bikinilover was reportable.
Don't see how, he's the number one troll on this site, he posts about 10 inanely stupid debates everyday ( on average, sometimes more). He hates upon anyone who says something serious, he hates near everyone, his arguments mostly consist of swearing and ignorance ( caused by his intolerable arrogance) they go hand in hand. You obviously do not use this site very often.
There are a lot of debates I haven't been participating in, and often if I DO participate, I only write my own argument, and debate with whomever disputes me, I don't read all the other arguments.
I rarely dispute others, so in order for me to be hateful towards BikiniLover he has to have had disputed me like you said, but he hasn't.
You don't read other debates?! My word what's the point then! rest assured everyone who's reading this I do read all your arguments to make sure I don't repeat something someone has already said. And because it is interesting to hear what you all think.
The point on going on a debating site, if all you're going to do is put forth your opinions and not expect them to be challenged. or challenge those of others.
Ahh, well there's where you're missing out. Normally people say " Oh you're entitled to your own opinion" and that is the be-all-and-end-all of it. However here, you challenge others opinions for a really heated argument.
I have done nothing wrong. You are the one who should be reported. You said that it did not matter if someone wished rape on me, so fuck you, little bitch.
If you almost killed yourself due to some things a troll and a 17 year old girl told you on a fucking WEBSITE.. then I highly suggest you leave this site. You obviously do not have the ability to ignore or any selfcontrol.
So log off, take a pill and go to sleep, and get over it and live your life.
Fuck you stupid bitch. That is exactly why I know that you are lying about being raped. True rape victims have compassion for other victims. Leave me the fuck alone.
Jews are known for that they don't go on the streets trying to convince people to believe in God, like for example Christians do - because, If I am correct they believe everyone will be saved?
But this messianic judaism you're talking about, do people who has that as a religion try to convince other to believe in God?
This is why I like you, you're the kind of person I would usually avoid and who shares completely different ideas to me. However your resilience, defiance and sheer passion for aggression towards people you don't like reminds me a lot of myself :)
My feelings towards you are neutral.Though I would dislike you more than like the way you're arguing. Besides, don't whinge when someone starts to debate against you on a debate site, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO! besides, you're completely ignoring the debate subject. All you're doing is complaining that Dana doesn't like you. Not my problem. And just because you haven't witnessed it, doesn't mean it is not true. I;'m sure if everyone participated,the majority would want him kicked off.
Besides, don't whinge when someone starts to debate against you on a debate site
At what point did I whinge?
you're completely ignoring the debate subject
I started out saying I don't think BikiniLover should be reported, and then you guys came along with all the other stuff. I have to reply, I don't want to ignore disputes like that.
And just because you haven't witnessed it, doesn't mean it is not true.
I never said that.
Although I asked for examples when Bikinilover has done something to anybody, and you couldn't give me any, so I'm starting to doubt your claims.
You didn't ask me for any proof. It's a bit like you giving me a pen and some sheets of paper and saying " Ok, name every single object in the world." Where the hell would I start. Car, Stapler, Microphone? I don't know. If you want proof, go on his profile, look at all his debates and arguments. I especially like his one about " Should women only use their mouths for blowjobs" thing. That one caught my eye not too long ago. Go take a look.
I didn't ask you to name every single thing in the world, I asked you to name one thing in the world - is that hard?
I can start - grass.
Can you give me one example, not all, where BikiniLover did something towards you or somebody else that was reportable?
If you want proof, go on his profile, look at all his debates and arguments.
You started this debate - if you want me to be on your side, you'd have to give me reasons for doing so.
Usually when people debate, they argument on their own - they don't expect the opposition to find arguments for them themselves, that is just playing stupid :)
Should women only use their mouths for blowjobs" thing. That one caught my eye not too long ago. Go take a look.
I agree this is a stupid debate to create, but I don't think he harassed anyone .. it might be reportable. I don't really know, I don't really have an opinion on that debate. But I agree with you that it is stupid.
I would report DanaForYeshua. Have you seen the debate called is this the 21st century? Other people want to mass report BikiniLover because he/she is one of the top debaters.
1. I'm pretty sure reports do nothing, I report people often enough for offensive behaviour I never saw a change their behaviour or their activity on the sight.
2. If reports did anything, they would need an accurate reason. Reporting him for answering a question wouldn't be anything at all.
3. If reports do something, and we send in 1000, we would not be harming Prodigee, we'd be harming Andy and whatever other moderators have to review those reports, only to see a whole bunch of non offensive behaviour.
4. Prodigee, which is who this BikiniLover actualy is, has already been banned, or had their original account deleted or something. Point is, we can't do anything that hasn't already been attempted. As for actually dealing with the troll problem, debates like these aren't helping. Trolls feed of of the attention, as hard as it may be, if you really want to defeat them ignore them. Don't humour them, don't rage at them, ignore them. Don't make debates about them, don't reply to them, and if absolutely necessary ban them from all debates you make.
If one person does anything, the effect will be minimal and will only be for that one person, if everyone does that same thing, we will finally achieve the result we want.
So this is literally for all to read if you really want a prodigee free debate site. Ignore him.
I don't think anyone has done anything worth being banned for. I didn't support prodigee being banned the first time, I won't support it the 2nd time either.
I don't think so. I gained confidence by thinking about as many ways to take someone out as possible if they tried to harm me, when they are threatening me. Then it just became habit and I didn't feel as scared anymore or angry (since I made a little breakthrough in philosophy which I'm still translating). Martial arts are great.
I highly doubt he did, send me a link to the debate. Even in the case that he didn't, he was either joking or he was simply exercising his freedom of speech (which is something you strongly defend) which one was it?
So let me get this straight: You screaming and cursing at everyone is not abuse, but making a rape joke is? And somehow you getting mad cancels out their freedom of speech?
A rape joke is not abuse, you trying censor someone's joke because it offended you is violating their freedom of speech. Its not abuse, you're just overly sensitive.
Its not abuse to wish anything on anyone. There is a difference between a wish and a threat. I highly doubt he even meant it, it was most likely a joke coming from him, you're just over reacting as you always do.
Typical feminazi. I advocate freedom of speech, but unlike you I defend everyone's, not just those who agree with me. You're just overly sensitive, stop reporting everyone, stop cursing at everyone and try to calm down.
I support the idea of freedom to speech, but I also disagree with making very offensive jokes in certain situations. Do you not think it's possible to defend someones freedom of speech, whilst strongly attacking the content of that speech?
Yes, if someone starts ranting about how jews have to be exterminated you have every right to call them a bigot and dispute them. Where I draw the line is, once you try to silence their views I no longer agree with you, whenever Dana gets offended (which she does, alot) she reports that person. See the problem?
Understandable, it's this aspect of Dana's argument that most bothers me too. Just how you worded something 'I support everyone's freedom of speech, I don't care if someone's rape joke offends you, its no reason to attack them.') made it sound like you were against any criticism of the expression of freedom of speech.
I'm not against criticism of it, I am just against people who threatened to attack people over what they said and people who try silence other people's views. Dana fits into both of those categories.
