Oh ho ho ho! Dont get me wrong now skippy, i think the 2000 year old one is just as fucking made up as yours :) Its just knowing that new shit was added so recently tells me that someone literally just made it up. With the 2000 year old one theres still discrepancy about its legitimacy, with yours i can rule it outright.
You just made that argument up today so by your logic I can dismiss it without even reading it. Brilliant.
Now i of course dont know for sure if you ARE one of these, but it is an educated guess off of evidence unlike what you claim i was doing.
You can call your attempt to stereotype me an educated guess I suppose.
Scripture isnt JUST things to use for prayer, theyre actually "documentation" of the acts of your god and of course Jesus's story or so christianity says.
Scripture is quite simply the written word. You are no more an authority on what should be included in a canon then anyone else. Also, I am sure you are aware that christianity is not a unified homogenous system of belief. Hence, your opinion of what christianity "says" is totally invalid especially since you do not even identify as christian.
That being said, even the prayer content is "divinely inspired" so if there's discrepancys between them than that means that all but one bible are false for many verses,
There is no collection of scripture anywhere that is without room for improvement. Thus saith the LORD
Because you believe in it and live your life by it as if it were absolute truth.
No that would be idolatry
at least, most all christians do.
You pretend to be unaware that the biblical tradition has long involved selecting certain scriptures to live by and others to disregard do to personal preference
That being said, how can you not question which sect or bible is the TRUE one if any?
Because there are none without room for improvement, including my own, and I relate to people on an individual level rather than just trying to use a label to stereotype them.
Theyve been altered countless times.
This is how technological standards work. Keep arguing to keep the technology in the stone age if you like.
nu nu nu nu no. Prayer is completely stupid.
Actually, properly understood, it is an excellent way to get your priorities in order and get things done.
Nobody ever has answered prayers and god doesnt speak to people. You might THINK he does, and you might make lame excuses to connect things that happen naturally WITH divine causeation, but youre wrong
Let me ask god what he has to say in response...."He only says that because he doesn't want to do what I ask of him, because he is too worried about being considered smart"
And if youre so far gone in your delusion that you wont even consider the posibility that youre wrong, this conversation is over.
Hmm that's actually one of the things god does regularly if you pray. He helps you to see when you are wrong. God speaks to me through other people all the time, in fact it is during conversations with other people where he becomes most "vocal". You are welcome to end the conversation whenever you like, but just so you know, I prefer talking with people who can refrain from being condescending. Perhaps you "pray to god" all the time and just don't like to call it that. Perhaps you are too metaphorically challenged to realize it. Perhaps those who pray to god have an overactive imagination, or those who don't can't use it very well. I am open to hear your persuasive argument, but even if I were to concede that praying to god is just imaginative play, you will have a hard time convincing me that it's not worthwhile and even healthy from a psychological standpoint.
If peoples eternal afterlives hang in the balance then i would fucking want to know that my shit is legitimate!
It would be better to simply admit that you....like everyone else.... have room to improve the way you interpret reality.
What if youre following the wrong sect and you end up in hell? (hypothetically because hell isnt real). Id be pissed because god didnt make sure that the word that reached people of 2013 WASNT TRUTH.
You are bound to live by the best understanding YOU have. You cannot operate by the understanding of a sect. That is a myth. Thus saith the LORD
All sects of christianity claim that THEIRS is the one true way and that all the others are flawed in some way.
Simply not true.
If there was only ONE christianity that was infalliablly true, then this problem wouldnt happen.
Ok so you don't understand that god values diversity.
But apparently god doesnt give a shit if his divine word that governs the lives of billions gets altered and changed and misinterpreted.
God does not want us making an idol of a bunch of scriptures, he wants us to communicate with him through prayer. If you tend to your relationship with god, you won't be wondering which sect is "The One True Religion" because your focus will be on what he tells you, not what "they" teach about him.
Or he just isnt real, and its just a storybook. Yeah ill go with that one
If I went by the stories told in books and couldn't directly communicate with god, I'd go with that one too.
That wasnt the question. How do you KNOW that your christianity is THE christianity that is true as opposed to the other sects?
I don't accept that one true christianity crap. My system needs work like everybody else's
What does it matter if its "better for you" if it isnt true?
You start with the truths you are prepared to accept
Also that "mined for material" thing is cute. So basically youve cherry picked all of the "happy lovey dovey" parts of the bible that make you FEEL good, while ignoring anything you dont like. Thats so stupid.
I could call your continued baseless assumptions about what I've included in my canon stupid
And i suppose you gave me a good reason why you and other christians dont accept evolution and other scientific theories, its because you dont GET them.
You have no idea what scientific theories I entertain, accept or reject, but don't let that stop you from pretending like you do.
Which brings me to the purpose of religion, its a big space filler for all peoples questions that they dont know the answers to.
If you religiously kept a list of all the things you most wanted to find out, and put that list in the front of your bible you would have yourself a good start :) But don't copy stupid old me!
"How did life get here?" "I dunno, therfore god did it" But we have abiogenesis and evolution and the big bang to explain them, but as you said above, you dont accept it if you dont get it.
With the exception of evolution which is just obvious, I accept them as entertaining theories. Things like this are in a section of my canon I call "suspicions"
without the bible how would you know of god's existence and his attributes?
Through conversation
So if you know the bible has flaws that need to be "sharpened" then how can you trust that it was factual in its claims of god's existence and jesus's life, ect ect. Where do the flaws begin and end?
I look at the broader biblical tradition and understand a canon of scripture to be a tool for psychological programming. We have to choose the sort of thoughts we wish to dominate our lives. The first bibles I read were instrumental in starting me off asking the biggest, deepest, most important questions I could come up with. While today I don't find all that much of what you refer to as "The Bible" (Which I assume to be one of the major translations of a judeo-christian canon) to have "made the cut" as far as what is included in my current canon, I do see what I am doing as a continuance of a seriously honorable tradition which encompasses scriptural traditions that aren't specific to any single religious sect and include traditions I'm sure you would regard as secular in nature. I belong whole heartedly only to the "record keeper" sect if you catch my drift.
As far as looking at old records as being "flawed", I really feel like I am beyond looking at them that way. I think these records are enlightening. When I speak of improving or sharpening, I am talking about making changes to my own collection. Make your own collection better and quit yapping about how you've got a problem with somebody else's.
unless god actually speaks to you physically to your ears, or to mine, or to anyones, then he doesnt speak to anyone any otherway because all such things have natural explainations and can be debunked.
I understand you have a problem with metaphors, but try thinking of "god" as "the interplay of ideas by which your internal ruling logic is formed". And remember my posts are not to be taken seriously at all cases. I AM kinda t*g here in case you couldn't tell