The Trinity Is a Medieval Invention
- the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost:
- and these three are one.
- the spirit, and the water, and the blood:
- and these three agree in one.
- The stuff in bold can only be found in Latin manuscripts of 1 John; the Greek manuscripts are rendered without the bold, stating originally:
- For there are three that bear record:
- The spirit, and the water, and the blood:
- And these three agree in one.
- Also, as many of you Christians mayn't be aware, it was not until 1551 that the Bible was versified: until then, it was just a slab of text. Indeed, the original writings of the Bible were without commas, periods, spaces, etc. for each of those were later inventions.
- The insertion above is called the Johannine Comma. When Desiderius Erasmus published the editio princeps of the Greek Bible in 1515, he published it the text as is shown above in italics; however, because the bold text had been the subject of much debate (and heresy, and thus bloodshed) for over a thousand years, he was lambasted for not including the accepted text; he replied to his critics that, if they could just find one Greek text with the text as they say it should be, he would emend the next edition. When nobody could find just such a Greek text, they made one up, translated directly to Greek from the Latin Vulgate.
- As ought to be quite evident, the actual, original Greek New Testament lacked a direct statement of trinity, and so how did it get into the Latin Bible?
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How did ANYTHING get into the Bible? MAN put it there, and left out whatever he thought "unnecessary" and irrelevant to his agenda to control the masses. Just what is the "Word of God"?? No one (really) knows. It's what MAN thought would be convenient to him ... control the masses ... and the women! How did ANYTHING get into the Bible? MAN put it there, and left out whatever he thought "unnecessary" and irrelevant to his agenda to control the masses. Just what is the "Word of God"?? No one (really) knows. It's what MAN thought would be convenient to him ... control the masses ... and the women! The greatest propaganda coup in the history of the world! 1
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So who invented the word "abomination" to describe a man bending over for another man to allow his body to be abused? Are you trying to say "abomination" is a religious term, and the stink and extremely high rate of disease transmission is not proof of sodomy being abominable? 1
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What does an thematically irrelevant English word have to do with anything? and the stink and extremely high rate of disease transmission is not proof of sodomy being abominable? By the same logic, it is abominable to live next to a marsh or a swamp, for it 1) smells bad (especially in summer), and 2) spreads diseases (such as malaria). Are swamps abominations unto the Lord? Did God not make swamps just as they are? The word "abomination" was "invented" to describe sex between two men?? I think not. the word was in existence before the Bible was put in print centuries after the "fact"(??) The "word" was "chosen" by the believers who wrote the Book and the word was chosen as a translation from an ancient language as a "fitting translation" of whatever word or phrase was chiseled into the tablet and meant whatever the translation seemed to mean ... confusing, no? Guess work, yes! 1
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The same basic people who agonized over how many angels could fit onto the head of a pin are the ones who brought us the concept of the "Holy Trinity". Because before they presented it there was trouble convincing converts how there could be a God, and a Holy Spirit, and Jesus Christ, but yet still call the religion monotheistic. Bingo, here comes the they're all one and the same but different argument. Problem solved. Is it an invention? Yes. Is it a medieval invention? No. The idea of the Trinity is at least as old as Origen, and Polycarp. The council of Nicea convened, in part, to address the issue of the Deity of Christ sometime in the early 4th century. It's fair to say the idea had been bouncing around a bit before that. The idea of the Triune God, or the Trinity is far older than medieval times. About 1500 years older! Saint Paul of Tarsus knew all about it. As he at one time or another mentioned all three aspects or components of it in his epistles. Which, btw, pre dated the Gospels! Oh...he may not have sat down and explained in one verse how the Tri partate Godhead worked, but he was very familiar with the concepts of God the Father, Yeshua the son, and the Holy Spirit. And of course Jesus knew this as well. He spoke of his Father as well as the Holy Spirit many many times. So your time estimate is off by about fifteen decades. Amigo. Oops! LOL. But hey...thanks though. For giving me a chance to think of God on a sunday. Very good, and let me add that the concept of the triune nature of God goes back much further than 1500 years prior to the dark ages. We first see it mention in Genesis when God said "let us make man in our own image". Man is create with a triune nature like God...body, soul, and spirit. If people invented God as it is often said, it was done long before Moses gave us the first five books of the Bible by people who see themselves as having a body rather than being a body. |
