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The left isn't so bad after all.
Some on this site speak about the left as ignorant hypocrites while viewing the right as the side of practicality and honesty.
I wondered why the left in many cases is more favored, and it turns out the left's vision is not like what many say on here.
It turns out that the left has the appeal even among people calling themselves "right wing". First, it is important to know what the terms "left" and "right" mean. The "right" advocates for social stratification/hierarchy in society while the "left" advocates for social equality/egalitarianism. Egalitarianism is taking over the world in our modern day, with modern democracies rising which are built around the idea. In the past, monarchism and emperors dominated, which is of the right. For the economy, social democracies have risen and have remarkable standards of living, health, and education. Universal healthcare is the norm among almost all developed countries and universal education. These are favored for good reason, since guaranteeing basic needs is important to the well being of people in society.
People talk about censorship, but our modern day is going to freedom of speech. Freedom of speech is important towards the left rising. Social freedoms and equality are as well, like gay marriage(marriage equality), abortion, secularism, positive liberties, etc.
Equality is favored today, and for good reason. The people who speak about the left as ignorant hypocrites on here would agree that other right-wing ideologies like racism and Nazism are harmful.
Just please don't speak about the left as full of ignorant hypocrites just because you disagree. Even if you are right-wing.
Only elete bigoted fools would paint people on the Right in America as thinking the same as dictators and brutal killers around the world.
We have one of those elete fools running for President. Hillary called 25% of our electorate as racists, sexists, exenophones, homphobes, Islamaphobes, etc. She called them all DEPLORABLE AND IRREDEEMABLE! Talk about closed minded intolerance for those who don't think like the Leftist no restriction abortion extremists.
These Right wing Americans were the ones who founded America and made it the greatest nation this world has ever seen! It was these traditionalist Right wing Americans who stood for moral values, respect for all innocent life. Christians were the ones who fought most to end slavery whie the Democrat party supported killing Black slaves.
Please spare us all how the Left, who supports killing innocent viable late term babies, even up to birth for any reason, as being not so bad. I would say they will go down in history as one of the most brutal uncompassionate selfish people the world has ever known.
The Right has many times tried to get compromise abortion limits up to 20 weeks (with extreme case exceptions) but the Left ALWAYS STOPS THEM!
They are every bit as bad as those on the Right say they are!
YOU ARE A PATHETIC LIAR PAINTING PEOPLE ON THE RIGHT AS BEING RACISTS!
Only elete bigoted fools would paint people on the Right in America as thinking the same as dictators and brutal killers around the world.
Dude, you compare the Left to Nazi's like every other day. Saying the left wants to kill off babies is like a typical mid-afternoon coffee break for you.
Yep you talk to much dummy and you really don't have a clue as what you saying. The Left supports Planned Parenthood or did you miss that ? 55 million babies killed by Planned Parenthood and yes it's like a coffee break to them. You really aren't to bright and you don't have the balls to fight back because you have nothing in the tank !!!!!!!!!!!
No you haven't. Saying that birth control is a good idea is not supporting it when you say birth control doesn't work in the next sentence. You are like the people who say that abortion is a bad thing but they still are pro choice. You can't have it both ways.
Only elete bigoted fools would paint people on the Right in America as thinking the same as dictators and brutal killers around the world.
Well, I didn't. I did say that Nazism and racism are right-wing, but not that right-wing American conservatives support militant dictatorship. Racial supremacy doesn't belong on the left because the left is about equality. The right is about social stratification and inequality. For example, capitalists are right-wing because they support inequality and defend it on the basis of economics.
We have one of those elete fools running for President. Hillary called 25% of our electorate as racists, sexists, exenophones, homphobes, Islamaphobes, etc. She called them all DEPLORABLE AND IRREDEEMABLE! Talk about closed minded intolerance for those who don't think like the Leftist no restriction abortion extremists.
I dislike Hillary, but Trump............
These Right wing Americans were the ones who founded America and made it the greatest nation this world has ever seen!
That is your opinion, and makes sense since you seem to support American conservatism.
It was these traditionalist Right wing Americans who stood for moral values, respect for all innocent life.
What moral values? Pushing religion into our government, when we are truly a secular nation.
Christians were the ones who fought most to end slavery whie the Democrat party supported killing Black slaves.
Christians have supported slavery as well. The democratic party was a right-wing party, which has went more to the left.
Please spare us all how the Left, who supports killing innocent viable late term babies, even up to birth for any reason, as being not so bad.
Oh, abortion, do you know why people on the left support legalized abortion? Abortion isn't murder.
I would say they will go down in history as one of the most brutal uncompassionate selfish people the world has ever known.
Not even close.
The Right has many times tried to get compromise abortion limits up to 20 weeks (with extreme case exceptions) but the Left ALWAYS STOPS THEM!
They support the right to choose.
They are every bit as bad as those on the Right say they are!
Not at all. The right just paints an image of the left to make it look negative.
YOU ARE A PATHETIC LIAR PAINTING PEOPLE ON THE RIGHT AS BEING RACISTS!
Well, Nazis and racists are on the right, but people on the right are not necessarily racist.
You are fighting an uphill battle. The people you are referring to know just about nothing about "the left" from an ideological context, and instead refer to a sort of straw-man construction of "the left" that allows them to have an easily referenced boogeyman in order to satisfy ideological insecurities.
There are a couple people on the right who are more reasonable when it comes to ideology, such as Amarel and SlapShot. However I believe they are both Libertarian, or at least Libertarian leaning, rather than Conservative.
The Progressive Left and their policies are a disaster. Blinded by that fact you are. 22 trillion to date spent on the War on Poverty and the Negros are more upset than ever. How does this happen ? Have the Negros not seen the nirvana they have been promised over and over again when they vote Democrat ? Should i quote LBJ for you to expose you for the fool you are. Yes let's do ! Just for you Dummy.
I’ll have those Negros voting Democratic for the next 200 years.” Lyndon Baines Johnson about the Great Society plan.
Negro Democrat voters are a pawn played on by Democrat politicians since at least 1965.
Well I was taught that the meaning of "Liberal" is to be open to new ideas. I guess in these days, it's used as a synonym for "political left democrats". Anyone with a brain can see that the political left has adopted a lot of ideologies that are actually contradictory to traditional values, capitalism and the constitution. I believe most of the left lack the capacity and self-awareness of the brainwashing that had occurred to them through "culture" and the high percentage of media spewing garbage.
Anyone with a brain can see that the political left has adopted a lot of ideologies that are actually contradictory to traditional values, capitalism and the constitution.
Many left-wingers are capitalists, they are social democrats which still advocate for a capitalist framework.
They aren't contradictory to the constitution.
I believe most of the left lack the capacity and self-awareness of the brainwashing that had occurred to them through "culture" and the high percentage of media spewing garbage.
Anyone who equates an ideology with being brainwashed clearly is being an arrogant and biased person. Never call someone "brainwashed" because you disagree with their ideology.
I am speaking about the goals of the left which even you may partially agree with.
Alright, fair enough. I should have said some, as to not suggest all of the left believe in some of the ideologies I find rather interesting (Means stupid). But most people who believe in said ideologies tend to be left-leaning (I mean seriously, some think think that one can both have open borders and open entitlements which include free healthcare, education, food assistance etc without an endless influx of immigrants and eventual systemic collapse, it's funny.) Now, SOME of the left-wingers DO believe in these idealogies which ARE contradictory to the things I listed in my initial comment.
Leftists ideology, whatever the strain, is not based in reality. It is based in a belief. Specifically, a belief that they WANT to believe in. There is no empirical evidence. There is no rational thought or intellectual honesty or rigour involved. It is simply something for the masses to opiate themselves on and feel good about it. (Such is why I called it brainwashing.) Don't even get me started on the hypocrisy that seeps out of their mouths.
I should have said some, as to not suggest all of the left believe in some of the ideologies I find rather interesting (Means stupid).
The left supports, and is about, equality(egalitarianism), you think that is stupid?
But most people who believe in said ideologies tend to be left-leaning (I mean seriously, some think think that one can both have open borders and open entitlements which include free healthcare, education, food assistance etc without an endless influx of immigrants and eventual systemic collapse, it's funny.)
I am talking about the main goals of the worldwide left, which turns out to be not so bad of a goal after all.
Yes, the left has supported universal healthcare, open border policy, universal education, and welfare, and much for good reason. It isn't funny, and you clearly don't understand the reasoning behind it.
Now, SOME of the left-wingers DO believe in these idealogies which ARE contradictory to the things I listed in my initial comment.
To what things?
Leftists ideology, whatever the strain, is not based in reality. It is based in a belief.
It applies to reality.
Specifically, a belief that they WANT to believe in.
Sure, whatever you believe in is what you want to believe in. It is your choice, nobody forces you. Unless, maybe you were conditioned to believe it like you were born in a liberal family that raised you to believe their way. It isn't fully your choice that way. However, you can always change your views.
There is no empirical evidence.
So, you are saying that the entire platform of the left and all their different views are all based on zero empirical evidence whatsoever?
Wow, you told me one thing about yourself, your biased ignorance.
Also, politics and science are different things.
There is no rational thought or intellectual honesty or rigour involved.
Again, your biased ignorance is showing. To say that the entire left is just biased emotional lies, and the right is of the smart intellectual honest people is entirely nonsense.
You clearly need to look more into this.
It is simply something for the masses to opiate themselves on and feel good about it.
Not true at all. There may be plenty who support the left to feel good about themselves, but it is hardly different than any other ideologies. The left certainly can, and has been subject to intellectual honesty.
(Such is why I called in brainwashing.)
No, people on the left aren't "brainwashed". You say that because you disagree with their views and makes you feel good about yourself.
Don't even get me started on the hypocrisy that seeps out of their mouths.
People like you fail to understand the other side and just instead refer to them as "hypocrites". You hold a biased relation to your ideology and refuse to consider other points of views.
Wow, great job disputing me. I said SOME ideologies, you seem to not have read it clearly, like most people of your side, not surprising really. I ALSO understand the reasoning behind universal healthcare, open border policy, universal education, and welfare, and while these are good things, you're to ignorant to understand why IT'S NOT SO EASY TO DO. It creates problems upon problems. Like they say: It's easier said than done. The damage you'll do is far greater than the good.
THE MAIN Leftist Ideologies DOES NOT apply to reality, it doesn't matter how good it's suppose to do. You know why? Because IT'S VERY VERY difficult to do, you can't do universal healthcare, open border policy, universal education, and welfare just because you want to, there are things that's stopping you from doing so, and even if you do, IT ONLY CAUSES MORE PROBLEMS and adds to the ones we already have.
Let me say this to you, I AM BIAS and so ARE YOU. To some degree, we ALL are, to whatever we believe in. I say it has no empirical evidence because THERE IS NONE. Let's look at some of them: universal healthcare, open border policy, universal education, and welfare. You know what all these have in common? These would surely help a lot of people, of course it does, but how are we suppose to achieve this? I want YOU to tell me how we're suppose to achieve all this with minimal damage? I'll let you answer, but I just wanna say, YOU CAN'T YOU DOUGHNUT. I'll look at one myself, the Open Borders policy. It's being opposed for a GOOD REASON. Criminals and terrorists will have an easier time getting into the country. America will not be overrun by a wave of bad apples, but a wave of good apples with a bad one here and there.(Terrorists, you dimwit)
This isn't some unicorn world where everything just works out because you want it to, this is reality, a concept that seems you aren't familiar with. Yes, some of the things you people want are great and beneficial for us, but again, there are to many complications that'll happen if you do somehow achieve this. Open your eyes, you doughnut.
I said SOME ideologies, you seem to not have read it clearly, like most people of your side, not surprising really.
I am talking about the modern left, which you seem to know what I am talking about.
I ALSO understand the reasoning behind universal healthcare, open border policy, universal education, and welfare, and while these are good things, you're to ignorant to understand why IT'S NOT SO EASY TO DO. It creates problems upon problems. Like they say: It's easier said than done. The damage you'll do is far greater than the good.
I can tell what you are really trying to say here. You worded it wrong.
You are saying that these left-wing policies are hardly sustainable and will cause more harm than good to society.
Let me say this to you, I AM BIAS and so ARE YOU. To some degree, we ALL are, to whatever we believe in.
The problem is, you are letting your bias take control.
I say it has no empirical evidence because THERE IS NONE.
In the political/economical sense, there actually is. Many left policies are already in countries and don't have to be in order to examine them. Empirical evidence would mean they would have to be put in practice, like what the left is trying to accomplish.
Let's look at some of them: universal healthcare, open border policy, universal education, and welfare. You know what all these have in common? These would surely help a lot of people, of course it does, but how are we suppose to achieve this?
Action and Legislation.
I want YOU to tell me how we're suppose to achieve all this with minimal damage?
Legislation for state policies. Universal healthcare and education is already the norm these days.
I'll let you answer, but I just wanna say, YOU CAN'T YOU DOUGHNUT.
Please elaborate. Explain how these policies inherently can't be achieved without massive damage.
I'll look at one myself, the Open Borders policy. It's being opposed for a GOOD REASON. Criminals and terrorists will have an easier time getting into the country. America will not be overrun by a wave of bad apples, but a wave of good apples with a bad one here and there.(Terrorists, you dimwit)
So it isn't achieving the policy that you say is damaging, but with how much harm and good the policies actually do.
Terrorists already get into countries anyways, they don't need open borders to get inside.
Borders are inefficient for stopping terrorism and there are much more effective solutions.
The many Pros of open border policy are worth considering.
This isn't some unicorn world where everything just works out because you want it to, this is reality, a concept that seems you aren't familiar with.
We are not talking about science and philosophy(which deals with reality). This isn't about the concept of reality(we aren't having a philosophical discussion on it here), but about the politics of the left. It is kind of strange you say this when we weren't even on the subject of the concept of our reality.
Yes, some of the things you people want are great and beneficial for us, but again, there are to many complications that'll happen if you do somehow achieve this.
I understand, and of course there are tons of factors in these things. However, this doesn't mean that they will do more harm than good.
Open your eyes, you doughnut.
I already do, I like to discuss and examine these things. It turns out that these things are more beneficial than you may think.
Denying them because they are left-wing is biased dishonesty.
