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 Under What Circumstances Can You Kill and Still go to Heaven (26)

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Under What Circumstances Can You Kill and Still go to Heaven

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When you ask for forgiveness after killing someone.

Srom(12206) Clarified
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You have to totally stop killing someone in order for you to go to heaven because that is what forgiveness is not doing the sin over and over again. So if you stop killing then God will forgive you.

riahlize(1573) Disputed
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No because that would mean you can only commit each sin and ask forgiveness once (for each sin) before you're damned.

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God encourages in several verses in the Bible that you not only should pillage your enemies, but also steal their wives from their villages and make them your own.

Facadeon(510) Banned
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Or rape them.

Hellno(17753) Disputed
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No fake accounts allowed.

Like, if someone pisses you off then I guess it's OK. Like when the people on Earth pissed God off and he wiped them all out (a common theme in the old testament). I mean, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Why should he be the only one allowed to wipe people off the map ;)

when evil is afoot my friend!

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Define "evil"

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God.

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Well if you killed someone and you were a Christian then you shouldn't have killed a person because Christians don't kill people but if the Christian repents of what he committed and doesn't do it for the rest of his life then he is forgiven.

If he keeps sinning and killing and keeps asking God for forgiveness then God will not forgive him because the person has to fully stop in order to be forgiven.

lolzors93(3225) Disputed
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Do you think that a person can completely stop sinning while here on earth?

You can kill, rape, steal, whatever you want under whatever circumstances.

There's just one catch, after you do all of that stuff you have to genuinely feel remorse for your actions and ask god for forgiveness.

Supporting Evidence: Christian Bible Reference - God forgives all sins (www.christianbiblereference.org)
Srom(12206) Clarified
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You also have to completely stop doing that sin in order to get forgiveness. If you keep doing the sin and asking God to forgive you God wont forgive you until you stop doing that sin you keep committing.

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Perhaps the person in this situation has a mental disorder where he compulsively does things that he genuinely regrets afterwards, and never truly wanted to do it in the first place.

Regardless, if he did it intentionally or unintentionally through some compulsive disorder, the fact is that so long as you genuinely (KEY WORD) ask god for forgiveness, God says he will give it.

If you think to yourself "well, i could rape this girl, and then ask god for forgiveness afterwards" obviously that is not genuine if you are consciously acknowledging your evil acts with the "guarantee" that god will forgive you. This is not genuine, so therefore if someone had this mentality they would not be forgiven.

According to god, when you happily smash the babies of your enemies upon the rocks.

Basically, if you're a Christian, might makes right. It's okay if god says so because god is god.