Thanxs kamranw , for understanding exactly what i was saying. My strict Hungarian grandfather was an extremist also . He would do things that reflected communist Hungary even though he took his family(my grandmother , my mum and her siblings) and immigrated to what he considered a better country at the time , seeking a better life for them. But i was born here and grew up here .I would do things as Aussie teenagers do things. This would make him furious , he would start cursing me half in english , half in Hungarian , sometimes i think he even cursed me in German. It took a long time for me to weedle out such things as corporal punishment from my family. At 14 , I and even some of my catholic/muslim/jewish/morman Aussie born friends also was going to school with welts from the jug cord / plank of wood or cane that we would so often recieve for doing the same petty things that our fellow Aussie mates were doing , but instead , they were being punished in the form of groundings , loss of privledges or even just a stern talking to.And with me the whole family would be informed of my rebelion so they could also have the option to correct and condemn my behaviour . With dear old pop , half the time i had no idea as to what he was saying , as my grandparents , my mother nor her siblings (who came here as young children ) cared to teach me fluent Hungarian . I wished they had taught me. I only know how to say a few words and that is things like apple / fly / spider in which visiting relatives from Hungary taught me .My mum just admitted to me the other day that between her and her four siblings they couldnt hold a convo in Hungarian now if their life depended on it . I find that sad. And it doesnt suprise me , that the one sibling of my mums ,my uncle , who was born here in Australia , like me , is the one relative from this side of the family that i have not clashed with regarding my relaxed Aussie way.He is a real blonde haired blue eyed Aussie ocker with Hungarian blood. A girl like me , with a free spirit like mine , would have not been accepted easily in communist Hungary. Anyhow thanks again. And your more than welcome to visit Australia , anytime. :) If i wasnt scared of flying , your beautiful Canada , would certainly be on my list of destinations for a holiday. PS My Aussie born and bred cousin ,who has Hungarian mother , who was baptised catholic , and who attended Jewish schooling , is in a relationship with ,and has two children ( so cute) with , a Lebenese Muslim man. He is ok , we like him and he is part of our extended multicultural family. But my cousin is a racist little bitch though and is a nazi at forcing Muslim views on the rest of us , even though her partner respects our way and we respect his. I respect him more than i respect her. :).