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Democratic Socialism VS Resource Based Economy

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Amarel (5669) Banned

1 point

One is admittedly retarded Utopianism with high hopes and the other is retarded Utopianism without aim.

6 years ago Side: RBE

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Daegonius (329) Disputed

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retarded utopianism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTQXgVb8V9M

By "high hopes" do you mean the idea that everything won't always be as stupid as it is now? By "without aim" do you mean to say that advancing as a species rather than going extinct is pointless? If we don't have a global resource based economy humanity will go extinct or at the very least society will collapse because as long as governments and monetary systems exist we will unnecessarily destroy the environment and tyranny will be the norm.

6 years ago Side: Socialism

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NumberOne (422)

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By "without aim" do you mean to say that advancing as a species rather than going extinct is pointless?

I am afraid that is exactly what he means to say. Amarel believes that justice and fairness are retarded because his only talents in life involve deceiving other people.

6 years ago Side: Socialism

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Amarel (5669) Disputed Banned

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do you mean the idea that everything won't always be as stupid as it is now?

Everything is currently better than its ever been and the trend isn’t continuing.

By "without aim" do you mean to say that advancing as a species rather than going extinct is pointless?

Neither option advances either the individual or the species. But the snake oil salesmen will persist.

If we don't have a global resource based economy humanity will go extinct or at the very least society will collapse

No it won’t.

as long as governments and monetary systems exist we will unnecessarily destroy the environment and tyranny will be the norm.

The world is more free from tyranny now than ever before precisely because governments are turning away from the shit you’re peddling. Your two options cannot exist without tyranny.

6 years ago Side: RBE

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Daegonius (329) Disputed

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Everything is currently better than its ever been

I don't know if that's true, just because we are more technologically advanced than ever before in history doesn't necessarily mean we are more prosperous. What if there was some ancient civilization that you don't know about which had no government and no war and had abundant natural resources. What if they had near perfect health and there where superfood crops that are extinct now which gave them their incredible health? What if they had a much more ethical and peaceful culture than us?

Neither option advances either the individual or the species.

Let's compare then shall we, what do you think will advance the individual and the species?

No it won’t.

What else are we going to do? Kindly ask Monsantos and big pharma to stop dumping chemical waste everywhere? Keep voting for the same damn system to be perpetuated by corporate con men in suits pontificating about change? Bend over and let the rothschild multinational banking cartel take over the earth?

The world is more free from tyranny now than ever before precisely because governments are turning away from the shit you’re peddling.

The world is not more free from tyranny, the tyrants are just getting smarter and less open about it. Also nothing that I'm "peddling" has ever been done before in history and no tyrant in history ever proposed a resource based economy or even democratic socialism for that matter. Please explain how not having tyranny cannot exist without tyranny, and how turning away from not having tyranny results in having less tyranny.

6 years ago Side: Socialism

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Amarel (5669) Disputed Banned

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I don't know if that's true

There is a high degree of certainty that it’s true. All the baseless what-ifs in the world cannot counter it.

Let's compare then shall we, what do you think will advance the individual and the species?

The species is a secondary concern, if it’s a concern at all. What benefits individuals is a system founded on an understanding of what rights are with the goal of protecting them. We don’t quite have it, but the closer we get, the better off we are.

The world is not more free from tyranny

It absolutely is. 400 years ago no one knew anything other than tyranny. We have been moving further from it ever since.

Also nothing that I'm "peddling" has ever been done before in history

That’s what they always say. The same old snake oil is always repackaged.

6 years ago Side: RBE

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Daegonius (329) Disputed

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There is a high degree of certainty that it’s true. All the baseless what-ifs in the world cannot counter it.

Saying that the world is more prosperous than ever is just as baseless because you have no idea if my what ifs are true or not. Can you name a single civilization older than sumer? I bet you can't, but there is evidence of them all over the planet, there are ruins being discovered that defy known history. And even if we are in some golden age of prosperity who's to say it can't be significantly better?

The species is a secondary concern, if it’s a concern at all.

If the species can't survive than neither can you or your bloodline you ass hat retard ignoramus. You know what's best for individuals? Being able to live with their own species and co-exist in a mutually productive manner rather than ripping each other to pieces and shitting all over the planet for profit until it's uninhabitable.

What benefits individuals is a system founded on an understanding of what rights are with the goal of protecting them.

Rights aren't rights. If you need a government which can change your rights and take your rights to give you rights then all you have is privileges. Rights can't exist if there is a government.

400 years ago no one knew anything other than tyranny.

You still don't know anything other than tyranny. You are like a "free range" chicken that thinks you are free from the slaughterhouse just because you are not in a cage. You are still just cattle to the elite.

same old snake oil is always repackaged.

I agree. Wait nevermind, I thought you where talking about politicians and corrupt corporations.

6 years ago Side: Socialism

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NumberOne (422) Disputed

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the other is retarded Utopianism without aim.

Surely the aim of Utopianism is Utopia, you dumb fuck?

6 years ago Side: Socialism

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Amarel (5669) Disputed Banned

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Surely the aim of Utopianism is Utopia

Surely it should be. Then everyone would see how obviously retarded it is.

6 years ago Side: RBE

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Amarel (5669) Disputed Banned

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Did you pick your name from a scale of 1 to 10 ?

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outlaw60 (15368)

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When bureaucrats in D.C. can make all the consumable goods for the Progressives then they will have their Utopia but figuring out the price tag will definitely be where the confusion sets in. Now Crazy Bernie could do it being he is very well schooled in operating any business in America LMMFAO !

6 years ago Side: RBE

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